FrederickRyan's FrozenOrb ES Insight Build

[RighteousRyan]

FrederickRyan's FrozenOrb ES Insight Build

Pure cold. Why? This could effectively do Andy, Meph, Summoner, Ancient tunnels (no natural cold immunes). So you get to do Andy who always quest drops, Mephisto, Summoner for keys, ancient tunnels for ilvl85. No this can't be used for rushing in Hell. But this is really good for people who dont have enigma just yet (me).

Stat Points.
Str 156 (Monarch Spirit) (Less if you have Enigma)
Dex None
Vit None
Ene Rest

Skill Points.
20 Frozen Orb
7 Cold Mastery 17 pts here is all you need
20 Telekinesis
20 Energy Shield
1 Static
1 Warmth
1 Teleport
All Prereq
20 Ice Bolt +60% cold dmg

It is interesting with this build, resists and DR do not matter because the effect take place after the ES. This makes resists and DR mods with out useage. This is cool because now you can focus on other mods. Apparently the 5% of dmg taken to your life could be negated with Magic Damaged Reduced by X (not a percent). Ex. Vipermagi has this, Damaged Reduced by 13 (MDR). Its resists don't even matter. To understand this more, go here http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143827

Equip your act2 merc with Insight. This alone will make you nearly invincible as long as your merc stays alive.

I just thought of this build just now. So please critique it as much as possible. I can't wait to actually build this and try it for my self. I would love a sorc who could stand up to Andy, Meph, Pindle, even Diablo, Baal toe to toe!

 

[stephan]

Re: FrederickRyan's FrozenOrb ES Insight Build

Nitpick: 20 points in icebolt only gives 40% extra damage.

The two problems with all ES builds are you spend 20+ towards a skill that doesn't do anything for your damage, and in PvM simply doesn't make you any safer than a normal vit build. You will get mana burned, and then what? It's simply unnecessary 'safety'. I'd rather simply do more damage.

A Meteorb would do Andy much easier than your build, Meph at about the same speed and a pure cold sorc can't really run Dia (not that you'd want to anyway) and Baal.

 

[Ed from Russia]

Re: FrederickRyan's FrozenOrb ES Insight Build

I agree with Stephan that a Meteorb would do Andy better, and a Blizzard sorc would probably run Mephisto quicker. But I've made pretty much the same build this season to start MFing. That's because I wanted something different. I used this TK/FO guide by Socialism, which is really well-written and handles the mana burn issue that Stephan describes and more.

 

[RighteousRyan]

Re: FrederickRyan's FrozenOrb ES Insight Build

Meteor or Meteorb will never been faster than pure blizz.
With that said, a pure blizz sorc is weak and can only really do Andy,Meph,Pindle.

I recently made a CL/Orb, she was only "good" with godly gear on.. But with only 20 Frozen Orb and 7 Cold Mastery, her strongest attack was Frozen Orb! Yet, since she was based on vit and nothing else, she was very weak. But, when I took on Andy and Meph they were both easily taken down, maybe only seconds more than a Blizz could do.

So this is why I am making this build... With a stronger Orb than the CL/Orb build, and a stronger sorc, she should be able to Anddy, Meph, Pindle, Ancient tunnels, Summoner. Because Frozen Orb is a much more versatile cold attack then Blizzard.

Also, I assume people get about or more than 10+ skills, so thats why I said 60%. I personally will have +11 skills at this point.

Also, keep in mind you have the Insight merc always available. This guide is never assuming that you run without it. So whatever mana leech or anything, you regen so fast it doesnt matter.

 

[stephan]

Re: FrederickRyan's FrozenOrb ES Insight Build

So this is why I am making this build... With a stronger Orb than the CL/Orb build, and a stronger sorc, she should be able to Anddy, Meph, Pindle, Ancient tunnels, Summoner. Because Frozen Orb is a much more versatile cold attack then Blizzard.

A pure Blizz sorc will run all these targets faster than an Orber.

Also, keep in mind you have the Insight merc always available. This guide is never assuming that you run without it. So whatever mana leech or anything, you regen so fast it doesnt matter.

I'm telling you mana burn *will* matter.

 

[RighteousRyan]

Re: FrederickRyan's FrozenOrb ES Insight Build

In my experience with Hell andy for instance... you could get a mana burn from one of those zombies hitting you as you dodge mephs attacks... Well, easy fix for that is a mana potion and you are good to go again. A lvl 12-17 Meditation aura is almost like drinking a Super mana potion every second.

Also, in my experience, in Hell Andy I took out Mephisto extremely fast with just FO (1 player, which is also what this char is design for).
Ok, so Blizz is technically faster as dmg. BUT, not when Meph is chasing you and you cast Blizz on her and hits her once, ect..
With Frozen Orb/ES you could litterally just tank Andy and really would only have to throw 3-4 Orbs (assuming you allready Static her).

And if that is the case, why not go Blizz and ES to tank? Blizz relys to much on synergys. A Frozen orb with max Ice Bolt is all you have room for. But no worry, because I am sure this kills nearly as fast as Blizz!

Also, Blizz can't take on lots of small monsters. Ancient tunnels would be really slow process.

(btw, cant wait to get grush in hell to start actually building this char.) Will update guide with how successful she turns out to be.

 

[stephan]

Re: FrederickRyan's FrozenOrb ES Insight Build

Also, in my experience, in Hell Andy I took out Mephisto extremely fast with just FO (1 player, which is also what this char is design for).
Ok, so Blizz is technically faster as dmg. BUT, not when Meph is chasing you and you cast Blizz on her and hits her once, ect..

Why would meph be chasing you? That's why you have a merc. He can easily stand the 4 seconds it takes to kill Hell Meph.

With Frozen Orb/ES you could litterally just tank Andy and really would only have to throw 3-4 Orbs (assuming you allready Static her).

My Meteorb tanks Hell Andy fine without ES. Not that much tanking is required since you can kill her in ~2 seconds with FB.

Also, Blizz can't take on lots of small monsters. Ancient tunnels would be really slow process.

This is simply false.

 

[RighteousRyan]

Re: FrederickRyan's FrozenOrb ES Insight Build

Hell Andy or Meph kills my lvl 85 merc with Vamp Gaze and Shaftstop. Not the best gear, but paybe Pdiamond would help. With out the best merc gear, you basically take these bosses on alone.

I wouldn't be making this build if my mercs could simply tank Andy, Meph.

But back to the main reason why I feel this build should/could be one of the better single element sorcs for MF. The Insight runeword! I image so many people have Insight for there Sorcs. It is so powerful. And when you can turn your health into your mana pool, it is an incredible mechanism.

Keep in mind, this is intended for Andy, Meph, Pindle, Summoner, Ancients. Also, Grush is assumed when building this because this chars only purpose is to farm items.

 

[nebux]

Re: FrederickRyan's FrozenOrb ES Insight Build

summoner? tele in a pack of ghosts with ES on and your dead. save and exit
what you'll do if near summoner are some vampires?
upp your merc resist and he will tank them easy.
the best single element sorc for MF is Blizzsorc, with one point wonders.
i was believing that as your blizz sorc merc wasn't able to tank hell andy and meph, you'll be going now without a merc.
what gear improvement on your new sorc your merc has, so he'll be able to tank hell andy and meph?

 

[Akse]

Re: FrederickRyan's FrozenOrb ES Insight Build

Dia is easy with pure cold sorc.. especially in LOD.. i've done it in classic with pure orb static sorc .. have to static down de seis and lightning him with level 3 or so lightning.. in LOD you can just static to half and hire will take care of the rest.

summoner? tele in a pack of ghosts with ES on and your dead. save and exit

Only idiot would do that.. with 105fcr no ghost have ever hit me in there..

Mana burn isnt a problem for ES build.. don't get hit is your number 1 goal with any sorc.

 

[stephan]

Re: FrederickRyan's FrozenOrb ES Insight Build

If you don't get hit, you don't need ES to begin with.

 

[limitedwhole]

Re: FrederickRyan's FrozenOrb ES Insight Build

You have to get hit in melee to mana burn. ES deflects rabid gloam attacks just fine.

 

[Lightc]

Re: FrederickRyan's FrozenOrb ES Insight Build

just a quick reminder: +skills do not factor into synergy, so icebolt synergy for FO is capped at icebolt slvl 20

 

[redground]

Re: FrederickRyan's FrozenOrb ES Insight Build

why not make a frozen orb build using the insight yourself???

Get a good Staff with +3 to Cold +3 to Frozen Orb and make a insight out of it. and you will have unlimited mana, and some decent 35% FCR.

Shako
Insight
ViperMagi
3 Cold 100 Life Ammy (10% FCR or another good mod)
Magefist
2 Sojs
String Of Eras or Arachs
War Travs
Double Spirit on switch for blind teleport.