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Discussion in 'Barbarian' started by klanirak, Jun 14, 2005.

  1. klanirak

    klanirak Banned

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    range 2
    base speed [10]

    Gogo GPA ^_^

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    style>dmg

    gogo eth nords

    :rolleyes:

    -jordy :king:
     
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    hey why are you making fun of eth nords you sarcastic devil,its not that bad.

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    He wasn't. I traded a zod with him for his eth nords he just got. He was excited like a babygirl with a new barbiedoll :p

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    But I was. :D

    yeah,thats so typical of jordy. :yawn:

    Rik
     
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    it was for my eth razor

    eth nords are soo cheap, il just get a new one when my current 1 breaks :D

    -jordy :king:
     
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    5 frame fury on druid wolf :p
     
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    Cool, but more of an Enchantress or Druid weapon, don't you think? Maybe even a Meleemancer (synergise the PNova?).
     
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    Same damage/speed/range of an ogre maul, but required strength 18.

    It is in pretty much every way the best 2 handed weapon for a barb.
     
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    Barbs get a lot of life per point. That means they can afford to put lots of points into Str and Dex. Barbs also have battle orders. As such, they can afford the extra requirements needed for a polearm while still having a decent amount of life. So you might as well get the extra range afforded by a polearm for your WW or whatever, and get the benefit of AR and damage from those spent points. An extra K of life is awesome and all, but a Barb can probably live without it.

    Sorcs and Necromancers need like 300 in vit if they want to melee in Hell. So if they need a lot of points in str and dex for their weapon, they're in trouble. In addition, Sorcs, Druids and Necromancers are all fast with staves.

    I'm not saying it's a bad weapon for a Barb. It certainly is not. I just don't think they benefit as much from it as a sorc, necro or druid would.
     
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    And ogre mauls are known to be kinda rubbish.
    Herald of Noob has already said the main things, its got a low range and it doesn't even reach last WW bp so its limited even with low reqs.
     
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    Ofcourse ogremauls suck, and ofcourse I said it all. Did you expect anything else?

    PS: archon botd on fury is secksy, but please don't use it on a wwbarb :c

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    i was a little disappointed you didn't state it didn't reach last WW bp!
    Still think poleaxe is better on fury druid purely for range.
     
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    Hey, I'm already giving them all the necessary info, I'm lazy you know :p. But, ok, just for your joy:

    Archon is base speed [10], which means it doesn't hit the last ww breakpoint with botd because 10-60= -50, and the last break for twohanders is -60.

    :clap:

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    4 life per point into vitality, multiplied by BO makes me want to put more points into vitality.
     
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    Except the poleaxes and pikes that people build it in usually don't reach the last bp either.

    600 vitality on a barb is a good thing. >.>


    The question is, which do you prefer? 1 frame faster attack for the 3rd and 4th ww checks, or an extra ~500-800 base hp?

    Seeing as they idea is teleport+dod/ww, I'm never wwing long enough to make that matter.

    Range only really matters in pvm, and anything works in pvm anyways.




    But at least my barb always wins vs other 2 handers.
     
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    Well, I play PvM, so anything over 2K life (with max resists and some DR) is just a luxury. Hence I'd rather the extra range and speed afforded by a polearm.
     
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    BOTD great poleaxe,giant thresher,ghost spear, add to that uniques comparable to botd like eth zod reaver or eth upped hone.All reach lwbp & are range 5(xcept reaver-4),hence better than any other 2hander.

    & its a 2frame faster attack not 1,a 4 frame ww vs a 6 frame ww.that is the lwbp weapons will get 3 hits in the same time frame as nonlwbp gets 2 after frame 8.

    & tele+dod is best with dualwield because it is 2x attacks & tele+dod is not for pvm. :uhhuh:

    an extra 500-800 hp in pvm doesnt matter,only thing that can ever kill a well built ww barb is himself with ironmaiden.

    Rik
     

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