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For the sake of BARBS help me..

Discussion in 'Barbarian' started by Windu102, Jun 6, 2005.

  1. Windu102

    Windu102 IncGamers Member

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    For the sake of BARBS help me..

    Long story short.

    I made frenzy barb - good build setup, but no way to get botdzerker
    Cant survive hell...

    Wanna make ww barb now - but not sure because i still hear great things bout frenzies...

    Questions:

    1) Can a godly 'out-PVM' a godly zealot? kill rate / survivablity...

    2) 4 my ww should i go with axe or mace/maul (im doin ladder)

    3) are ww fun, strong and soloable in hell...

    plz answer me these questions three.
    thanks in advance
     
  2. Jek

    Jek IncGamers Member

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    Go dual wield axe or sword, then slap on some CB gear - G. Face and you'll OutPvM any zealot. :)
     
  3. Paulsummoner

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    Well, youy should certainly go with axes for WW, and WW is not just fun, it is easy to play on hell (at least for me now), I have standard build WW/tele barb, and I kill monsters in hell like kids, yes it is fun, WW barb is a very good build.
     
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    Doll Call IncGamers Member

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    pvm = frenzy > ww

    when/if you can afford it grief/doom + beast ruins everything in a few swings.
     
  5. Windu102

    Windu102 IncGamers Member

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    Hey thanks guys - also with my ww barb - what on earth do you do with the remaining 15 or so skill points left over?

    Should i go with iron skin/ natural resistance / warcry/ nother mastery...

    again guys, thanks in advance...
     
  6. Jek

    Jek IncGamers Member

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    Warcriez. ;)

    I'd go
    20 WW
    20 Mastery
    1 Berserk
    1 BCom
    1 BCry
    1 Taunt
    1 Find Item
    4 "The Passives"
    20 BO
    20 Shout
    7 Pre-reqs
    ----
    Total : skill points 96
    Done : level 85
    Rest : Berserk/Concentrate/Iron Skin
     
  7. Aucon

    Aucon IncGamers Member

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    Try this, get as much MF as you can and run the Pits. Also try Hell Andy and Meph. Keep making these runs until you get better gear. The Frenzier will survive. Just ask Ash Housewares.
     
  8. Fongalv

    Fongalv IncGamers Member

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    finally got my frenzier to 85...
    dual weld azurewraths and it took me like 5 mins to kill hell baal...
    CB? im soo tempted to ber the azures...gota get a ber first tho...

    or should I drop 1 azure and get a grief pb instead?

    im still stuck with my levithian...chains is such a pain to repair...
    anyone tried fort yet? how does the ED measure up for phaseblades?
     
  9. MrNuby

    MrNuby IncGamers Member

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    If you can afford it go with Last Wish :D

    Last Wish
    Jah + Mal + Jah + Sur + Jah + Ber

    6% Chance To Cast Level 11 Fade When Struck
    10% Chance To Cast Level 18 Life Tap On Striking
    20% Chance To Cast Level 20 Charged Bolt On Attack
    Level 17 Might Aura When Equipped
    +330-375% Enhanced Damage (varies)
    Ignore Target's Defense
    60-70% Chance of Crushing Blow (varies)
    Prevent Monster Heal
    Hit Blinds Target
    0.5 (per level)% Chance of Getting Magic Items (Based on Character Level)

    This in one hand and Beast in the other one... Granted Beast doens't work in swords.
     
  10. Fongalv

    Fongalv IncGamers Member

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    well..im kinda missing 2 jahs and a sur...
    its really a damn expensive weapon...

    i like the look of phaseblades...it can be made in 1 right...
     
  11. Jek

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    Maybe two Kingslayers on switch instead of wasting a Ber? :)
     
  12. Dad Daniel

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    :bonk: :cheesy: :bonk:

    Man you have to be insanely rich to use Ber runes for such purpose!!
     
  13. Fongalv

    Fongalv IncGamers Member

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    lol...im not...just tempted...dont even have a single ber to start with...

    but that CB is really useful...huz changed to gores and im killing hell baal pretty much faster...

    btw juz got a pretty good deal of a 209 ed fort + upped arreats with 40 ed jewel + 45 travs for 2 ists only...

    the fort made my damage now 2.3kish with azures and pushed def to 13k with cold armour casted...way cool...also tested with war travs and the damage increased abt 200(nice!)

    Jek < i have 2 WC javs on switch and its juz too troublesome to keep them stashed...besides they are not that cheap either but i might make 1 considering the large amts of CB it has...

    so for the moment il be sticking to dual azures, azure/cresent moon, azure/kingslayer till i can hopefully afford that last wish phaseblade :thumbsup: ...
     
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    I am using EBOTDZ and war spike beast(haven't found a 5 sok zerker yet) and loaded up my stash with poison damage and I hit around 6kww with botd and 2-3k with beast. with teleport I can move around lvls faster then a lot of characters and I am way more survivable then most classes due to my 4k life
     
  15. Ash Housewares

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    since when do you need BotD for PvM?

    don't use low budget as a crutch for frenzy failing, frenzy is STRONG! you are weak!!!

    sorry...

    nevermind...
     
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    6k WW? wow dint know it can reach that much...
    a frenzy build can work with relatively cheap items and weapons being the most expensive depending on taste...i never really liked ebotd from the start and never owned 1 b4(sour grapes... :lol: ) but i think style counts alot these days since otherwise everyone else uses the same stuff...

    as much as i love my new fort armour, im beginning to miss the good old big green armour i have been "stuck" with b4 i managed to trade for fort...

    thats also why i chose sticking to phaseblades and imo axes looks like toys on a big barb...phaseblades juz look sweet and best of all, they dont need repairs :clap: ...not to forget the whole screen goin twinkle twinkle little stars with azure...
     
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    take a deep breath and count to 10 :D
     
  18. ebyworx

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    faster kills = more mfing and exp. if you have the gear you may as well use it right?
     
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    You may want to consider the *very* cheap item Fleshripper if you are having issues with Baal. Kingslayer would be better, Last Wish would be a dream. I didn't see any PMH or OW in the build (which stop his regeneration), so adding some of that would help.

    Also, where are your Goreriders and Duress? What kind of melee characters are we building in this forum? Screw Fortitude, it's only useful in PvP.
     

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