Flaming Rabies vs Fireclaw: lets discuss

[Jary]

Flaming Rabies vs Fireclaw: lets discuss

I'm debating which route to go, 'cause both seem like very fun options. By all means this post is not a "which build beats the other"... 'cause probably the one that stacks the most resists >.< But what I'm really after is, which build fairs the best all around in pubs or any other duel.

Fireclaw
-greater life
-far greater fire damage
-greater speed, ftmp (=for the most part, happy Oiler and porky :grin: )

Flaming Rabies
-greater AR/FHR
-possibly far greater damage output overall (debatable): since rabies isn't stackable, combining it with lower end fireclaw should still come out ahead against most melee vs JUST fireclaw.

It all seems to come down to more versatility vs. just plain more effective. Am I better just gammbling and going for better all around, or should I try more vers so less dead matches?

 

[Queen Mebd]

This is a tough questions, as both are in fact very fun options, and both have their respective strengths and weaknesses. My first inclination would be to say that the flaming-rabies druid might be better for pubs on the offensive end, having two attacks that don't get paired together by more than four people on this forum certainly adds to the what-the-ef factor most pubs will probably be experiencing. Then again I have had more than just a few people think they were mauled by my fc druid in pubs. Anecdotal evidence aside, I think having a strong rabies would lend itself very useful in pubs for those that run and tele around too much ('zons, sorcs, necros, hammerdins).

As you noted, a pure fc druid will have better life, and they can also achieve just as solid ar and fhr by switching into wolfform, which is often the case for smiters, zealers, all sorts of other crapdins, barbs and the like. The life is nice when taking shots while chasing casters around or trying to get hits in whilst barbarians do their silly little ballerina dance (this is where having rabies at your disposal could really be useful - as you bite once and have a little more control of the tempo of the duel).

I wish I had gotten my flaming-rabies druid leveled a bit more so I could do a side by side comparison with my fc druid. It'd also be interesting to see how he'd look with some of the better charms I've acquired since last playing with the flaming-rabies druid. Maybe I'll work on that guy a bit this weekend if I have some free time and post some updated stats/screenshots.

In the end I think both would serve you well in pubs, but the flaming-rabies' versatility might be a little more suited to the run-around-and-attack-everything mentality of pubs.

 

[Verashiden]

Just like the Difference between Fury and F/R. Flaming Rabies tends to do better against Casters or opponents where you'll only be getting a few shots in. FC works better DvD and in most Melee matches.

 

[superjayson]

fc druid > flaming rabies.

flaming rabies is a good hybrid, but since that the carrion wind bug is gone it doesnt give the build two strong attacks anymore, at least from my experience. It's usually one strong attack with a much weaker backup attack.

I also think a flaming rabies would be much more gear dependant and alot more expensive in comparison.

I still think it can be successful in pvp, but its alot easier to make a good fc druid.

I do think the flaming rabies edges the fc druid in versatility by a small margin.

 

[Jary]

I'm not considering "cost" a factor ^.^
I would only make something the best of the best, just the best of one vs best of other ^.^

gosh... I am just stumped at which one... ahhh.. I need someone to just slap me and tell me which one, I dunno I wanna make both builds.
Jayson wut do I do! My initial plan was to try to hit 10k life, 20k fireclaw... but sorta having second thoughts...

I really wanna make flaming rabies... but I also wanna pimp out a fireclaw again. But I've made 6 fireclaw Bears and 0 Flaming Rabies :[ ... but bears are just so cuddly and happy... damn, I hope I'm not this confused on my exam tomorrow :laugh:

 

[superjayson]

10klife/20fc is going to be hard to get if its even possible.

you can still use werebear with flaming rabies if you just go fireclaws. how ever you'd be a weaker version of an fc druid.

 

[Jary]

All right. I'll see what gear I can throw together, prolly go with my initial plan, Fireclaws, then after I examine my stats maybe try for the Flamer in the future here ^.^

 

[The Cow King]

I dont know squat about weredudes but I'd go wth flaming rabies bcuz

a) it sounds so cool

b) prob more fun to play with more diversity

c) biting someone w rabies must be rly fun bcuz they start to panic omg whaz hapening to me aah halp 8(

 

[Porky]

Wolves are ugly, Bears are cute and cuddly. Which brings me to the conclusion that a Pure FC > Flaming rabies. Also, having to put only 1 point in Oak Sage and Lycanthropy seems like an ewwish idea. Although, if you're like Kiba and rabie and run the whole time, I guess life wont really matter

 

[Jary]

Wolves are ugly, Bears are cute and cuddly. Which brings me to the conclusion that a Pure FC > Flaming rabies. Also, having to put only 1 point in Oak Sage and Lycanthropy seems like an ewwish idea. Although, if you're like Kiba and rabie and run the whole time, I guess life wont really matter

:laugh:
Yeah. I didn't think about the "lovable factor". I'll prolly start with a bear and if I get risky in the future... evolve heh.

Kiba's gonna come track you down in real life, kick you in the nuts, then casually saunter away on his hind legs. ^.^
(you got it wrong, I only FISSURE and run like a coward

 

[Porky]

If you want to be a rebel, you should make a PvP Hunger bear. Hunger > FC hands down for obvious reasons.

Kiba's used to my **** talking.

 

[superjayson]

i think the flaming rabies build can be sumed up as a jack of all trades(aka fc/rabies:|), but master of none.

i think a pure fc druid would be more successful anyday.
fc druids have instant success and if you devote more time gear wise and playing you'll only do alot better.

flaming rabies has a steep learning curve.

 

[Queen Mebd]

It's kind of silly to not use both wolf and bearform with both builds, but as Jayson mentioned, it takes a little finesse to pull off with a flaming-rabies druid. I like to think in terms of which is more suited to what style of play more than anything else. A pure fc druid will easily hold an upper hand over most everything in dvd due to shockwave (plus it's not that hard to stack poison res on said druids). They'll also do better in situations were you need the tanking ability that more life will get you.

Flaming-rabies is a little more suited to a hit and run style of play, so you'll need pretty good reflexes to do well with one (not unlike a fury-rabies wolf). The one area in which it can shine is dealing with minionstacks much more effectively than an fc druid can (due to rabies). It's nice to either be able to knock out minions quickly as in the case of wind druids without necessarily having to engage, or being able to transfer rabies via minions if your opponent is not careful. I still think flaming-rabies pups have quite a nice little alternative against some casters.

If you do decide to go ahead with a fireclaws druid, you'll have most all the equipment for a flaming-rabies druid, so you can't go wrong there. :grin:

 

[Kiba]

Wolves are ugly, Bears are cute and cuddly. Which brings me to the conclusion that a Pure FC > Flaming rabies. Also, having to put only 1 point in Oak Sage and Lycanthropy seems like an ewwish idea. Although, if you're like Kiba and rabie and run the whole time, I guess life wont really matter

Go stick some pine cones up your rear end you adolescent Bear.

Bucket of water > FC Bear.

 

[superjayson]

watching tree's grow > wolves