fishymancer vs. Lister Hey, I pat-ed my fishymancer last night, and in a lots of ways i am happy with that char. (except for not having a clue what to do with my last 12 or so skill points) He is not as good a sniper as an mf-sorc of course but he can roll through most of the lev85 areas really fast with high mf, which is certainly nice (and that was the purpose of building him). Solo-ing WSK is easy except for OKs occasionally killing my merc, and the minions up until the venom lords die rather fast. But Lister and his pack is a problem even on player1. I used decreptify and attract on them, but still they got rid of my skellies rather fast. I tried dragging them to the venom lord corpses, but there is usually not enough left to finish them off with CE. I can tp back to Harrogath and grab some new corpses from Pindle and come out winning in a few tries but seriously it slows down my solo wsk runs a lot, and is also somewhat annoying. Is there some superior tactic against them? Possibly any revives that are particulary effective in that fight? (tried hell tempresses but they didnt do a lot) I only have +6 skills on, but it would be hard to get on more without losing mf (and mf is the point here pretty much). Suggestions welcome. Ps: Nice guide, Nightfish. I think you could add a part to the strategy section about the "chilly" part of actv (glacial trail and the like) where frozen horrors can pose a threat to a summonmancer (no corpses ==> no CE/ no army resupply. it was a true pain for me until i got some help in mp. ) Also what is the deal with unbreakable PIs? If there are corpses nearby, yeah i figure what to do, but how you deal with them without CE? I usually just ran away. Also what is the point in having revives as high as 12? I hardly find that many monster worth of reviving. And finally how you cope with mana issues? Casting CE almost constantly along with the costy revives i run out rather fast. I dont like to have more than 1 row of mana potions either. I could wear frosties i guess, but i prefer mf gloves for obvious reasons.