FINALLY a lite sorc

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dythmall

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FINALLY a lite sorc

after building a bunch of blizz and fireorbers
i am trying to build a lite sorc but i have some questions concerning her.
these are items I have so far

full tal's
OR
shako, vmagi, mara, arachnid, lite eschuta or hoto.

bk... and something else
magefist or chancy
wartrav or waterwalk
storch, anni

i DO NOT have infinity BUT i am trying to get one...

1. should I go all out lite or CL/FO?
I am trying to run chaos with this sorc...

2. which items to use?

thx
 
Rassler

Rassler

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Re: FINALLY a lite sorc

For Lightning, I wouldn't use Tal's set. I find you get much better damage with your second option. I believe the Tal's set is an advantage for a Meteorb sorc, due to the nature of Cold Mastery, but doesn't help a Light Sorc as much as you would hope.

Are you going to be MFing with her? Or just running around? You can always use partial Tal's for the MF/FCR bonus which is nice.

Cheaper Alternative
Eschuta or Occulus
Shako
Tal's Armor (MFing) or Vipermagi
Tal's Belt (MFing)
Tal's Ammy
Spirit Monarch
SOJ and Raven
Waterwalks
Frostburns/Magefists/Trangs

More Expensive Alternative (For huge damage)
HoTo
Griffons
Chains of Honor
Arach
Raven/SOJ + FCR STR Res Ring
Maras
Same Gloves as above
War Travs
20/20 Facet Monarch, or Spirit (I prefer Spirit)

Just need to remember that Lightning/Chain Lightning has different FCR breakpoints to normal Fireball etc. They're a bit higher than the others.

As for Chaos and whether to go all Light or not - it depends if you can get Infinity. There is only 1 native Light Immune in Chaos, and that's the Gloam thingies. Easily dispatched by a Merc with an Eth Elite Polearm, though with Infinity, you can break these.
 
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dythmall

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Re: FINALLY a lite sorc

I am thinking of mfing with this sorc.
why CoH? is it because of the res bonus?

Do you think she will be better at mfing than my blizz sorc?
 
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Chase

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Re: FINALLY a lite sorc

Agreed. Without infinity, Chaos will be suicide with one element if you plan to clear/D. Odds enough, two light sorcs and I were doing the actually quest (clearing for our alts), but without any of us with elite gear, it became quite the pain...
 
Rassler

Rassler

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Re: FINALLY a lite sorc

CoH was just my personal choice of armor for any Sorceress. It has that huge +res all which means I can concentrate my gear elsewhere, and the +2 skills is great. There's nothing stopping you from using Enigma or even Fort for the res/FCR/life. In the end, whichever works best.

If you want to MF, then maybe try Enigma or Tal's. Tal's will give you a higher MF bonus than Enigma will (Ptopaz Tal Armor + 15MF Belt + Ammy + Set bonus = 193MF) but obviously Enigma has some great mods on it too.

As for MFing, I have no trouble with her whatsoever. Infinity breaks down 90% of immunities, and the other 10% my merc can kill.
Nothing lasts too long once it's been broken, including the act bosses which usually go down in a matter of seconds.
 
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redground

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Re: FINALLY a lite sorc

make a ES build, so you dot need to care about resists. Then you can get a +3 ormus robes and some more options to get as much dmg as you can.
 
Rassler

Rassler

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Re: FINALLY a lite sorc

By going ES, he'd be cutting out a lot of points from Lightning and it's synergies. You already need:

20 Charged Bolt
20 Lightning
20 Chain Lightning
20 Nova
20 Mastery

to maximise Lightning's full potential, and even just getting to that requires 90+. If you want more damage, I'd recommend skillers to increase damage. Ultimately it's your choice how you wanna go, but I see very little advantage (if any) in using an Ormus > CoH.
 
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MoonUnit

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Re: FINALLY a lite sorc

dythmall said:
after building a bunch of blizz and fireorbers
i am trying to build a lite sorc but i have some questions concerning her.
these are items I have so far

full tal's
OR
shako, vmagi, mara, arachnid, lite eschuta or hoto.

bk... and something else
magefist or chancy
wartrav or waterwalk
storch, anni

i DO NOT have infinity BUT i am trying to get one...

1. should I go all out lite or CL/FO?
I am trying to run chaos with this sorc...

2. which items to use?

thx
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I've got a light sorc, almost complete (1 level to go for the last point in nova..).

I use this:

Heart of the Oak
Spirit Shield
Chains of Honor
Griffon's Eye
Mara's Kaleidoscope
SoJ x 2
Sandstorm Treks
Magefists
Thundergod's Vigor
STorch
Anni

I've got a Arachnid Mesh in storage, but I haven't been using it lately.


Rassler said:
For Lightning, I wouldn't use Tal's set. I find you get much better damage with your second option. I believe the Tal's set is an advantage for a Meteorb sorc, due to the nature of Cold Mastery, but doesn't help a Light Sorc as much as you would hope.
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Agreed, I did try a CL/Orb sorc using Tal's set last ladder.. the damage output was horrid.

Cheaper Alternative
Eschuta or Occulus
Shako
Tal's Armor (MFing) or Vipermagi
Tal's Belt (MFing)
Tal's Ammy
Spirit Monarch
SOJ and Raven
Waterwalks
Frostburns/Magefists/Trangs

More Expensive Alternative (For huge damage)
HoTo
Griffons
Chains of Honor
Arach
Raven/SOJ + FCR STR Res Ring
Maras
Same Gloves as above
War Travs
20/20 Facet Monarch, or Spirit (I prefer Spirit)

Just need to remember that Lightning/Chain Lightning has different FCR breakpoints to normal Fireball etc. They're a bit higher than the others.
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Yeah the breakpoints are higher than normal. Here's a link to a table of the breakpoints for Lightning/Chain: http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=485631

Rassler said:
CoH was just my personal choice of armor for any Sorceress. It has that huge +res all which means I can concentrate my gear elsewhere, and the +2 skills is great. There's nothing stopping you from using Enigma or even Fort for the res/FCR/life. In the end, whichever works best.
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I use CoH on all my sorc's, even tho it doesn't have as high MF as enigma or Tal's armor, it works for me. The +2 skills and +65 res make it a top choice for me. Altho I only have 25MF, I find odds and ends when running different areas. I made her to hunt for runes doing Countess/Cows, but she can do any area of the game as long as she has her merc with her. :)

As for MFing, I have no trouble with her whatsoever. Infinity breaks down 90% of immunities, and the other 10% my merc can kill.
Nothing lasts too long once it's been broken, including the act bosses which usually go down in a matter of seconds.
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Yeah, It's insane how fast act bosses go down when you have a 30K lightning and a merc using infinity. :smug:



 
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dythmall

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Re: FINALLY a lite sorc

ok.. i just got an infinity
so my sorc is like this

shako
p mara
p vmagi
arachnid
spirit
lite eschuta with 5/4 facet
soj, bk
wartrav
torc and anni

she is a very fast killer... but i run out of mana too easily...
should I get another soj?
i see why people would like CoH but right now getting anther BER would be... too much for me (spent all my wealth pretty much in this sorc)
I can pretty much rush hell with no problem

my skills so far
she's at lvl81
CL - 20
Lightening - 20
CB - 20
lite mastery - 20
working on nova
 
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redground

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Re: FINALLY a lite sorc

Light sorc? i would not use hoto, a crescent moon will be better for imunes and potentialy better for non imunes, you just need to get some stuff to make up the resists loss (and also something for the FCR, it depends on what BP you are looking for)
 
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dythmall

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Re: FINALLY a lite sorc

ok...
so far my lite sorc is pretty powerful (more powerful than my meteorb for sure)
BUT
i have hard time killing those lite immune guys... (my merc does more dmg to them than i do...)
should i really try holding crescent moon?

currently she's at lvl 85 and does 27k lightening dmg and 11k CL dmg
my shako and vmagi are not socketed yet..
should I try lite facets on them?
i think eventually i want to get a nigma or CoH for her
but i am really hesitant in getting rid of my eschuta (+3 sorc skill 22% lite dmg + -4 enemy lite res) for -35 lite res..

currenly i don't have any lite GC's
 
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redground

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Re: FINALLY a lite sorc

dythmall said:
ok...
so far my lite sorc is pretty powerful (more powerful than my meteorb for sure)
BUT
i have hard time killing those lite immune guys... (my merc does more dmg to them than i do...)
should i really try holding crescent moon?

currently she's at lvl 85 and does 27k lightening dmg and 11k CL dmg
my shako and vmagi are not socketed yet..
should I try lite facets on them?
i think eventually i want to get a nigma or CoH for her
but i am really hesitant in getting rid of my eschuta (+3 sorc skill 22% lite dmg + -4 enemy lite res) for -35 lite res..

currenly i don't have any lite GC's
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the +xx% light dmg from eschuta´s stacks on top of the liight Mastery, so it is not even that powerfull. Eschuta´s worths for it´s +3 skills and 40FCR, a hoto is better for the +resists it have.

The Infinity takes out 17% light resist of imune monsters, the -25% from crescent moon will be a nice boost for you dmg, if you get a Griffons eye or even 2 light facets for vipermagi and shako for a -10% light resists you will feel some difference. Infinity would give you up to -55% (i am not sure of te numbers) but you would loose the 35FCR from spirit, so it would be hard to hit the same break point without a griffons.


 
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Robobaby

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Re: FINALLY a lite sorc

dythmall said:
ok...
so far my lite sorc is pretty powerful (more powerful than my meteorb for sure)
BUT
i have hard time killing those lite immune guys... (my merc does more dmg to them than i do...)
should i really try holding crescent moon?

currently she's at lvl 85 and does 27k lightening dmg and 11k CL dmg
my shako and vmagi are not socketed yet..
should I try lite facets on them?
i think eventually i want to get a nigma or CoH for her
but i am really hesitant in getting rid of my eschuta (+3 sorc skill 22% lite dmg + -4 enemy lite res) for -35 lite res..

currenly i don't have any lite GC's
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Can I ask how you are doing 27k dmg at level 85 without any light GCs? With all lightning synergies maxed (which you wont be able to do by lvl 85) you would need +17 all skills to get 27k lightning. :O


 
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redground

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Re: FINALLY a lite sorc

Robobaby said:
Can I ask how you are doing 27k dmg at level 85 without any light GCs? With all lightning synergies maxed (which you wont be able to do by lvl 85) you would need +17 all skills to get 27k lightning. :O
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2 shako
2 nigma/coh
2 maras
3 occy/eschutas/hoto
2 spirit
1 arach
2 sojs
3 torch
1 anni

18 to all skills :)

(i guess you didnt count torch and anni)


 
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dythmall

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Re: FINALLY a lite sorc

well yeah.. i don't have CoH but i get +1 from the battle command..
so I do have +18 all skill right now.
I think I am going to get more lite GC's
If I get 9 lite GC's how much will it boost my dmg?
as I said my dmg is still at 27k (haven't played much lately)

Griffon is a bit expensive in Ladder right now... I used up all my wealth getting that infinity....
I guess i could get a Hoto instead of eschuta or crecent moon
maybe I'll try that
 
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rickster

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Re: FINALLY a lite sorc

Would a chain lightning ormus with a -5% facet be a solid armor choice if you can get the resists elsewhere? I also acquired a Mang Song's Lesson with -15 cold/light resists, is that staff worth messing around with, or would i be better off with spirit and hoto?
 
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