FCR for a PvM Hammerdin??
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Well, I got by with my level ** Hammerdin with around 25%-40% fcr, but really you can make do with none. I would occasionally go with 0 fcr, and it was certainly not impossible, especially if you are doing mf in the pits or mausoleuom, or some other similar easy place. Basically it comes down to how hard the place is that you are mf'ing in, for example I spent most of my time in Chaos Sanctuary, since it had good exp and was just sort of fun, so I would generally throw on a wizardspike in place of ali-baba's blade, thus taking care of resists, mana, and giving me an ample 50% fcr to boot. It's really just all about the minimum you can survive and kill quickly with, and I found it to be worth the loss of 90ish mf from Ali-baba's in order to be much safer and effective. However, if you are doing mainly shenk and eldritch runs, which is my other favorite place, you can really do fine with no FCR at all, since the bad guys aren't too hard, aside from projectile users that often spawn aroudn Shenk. I found success with a few pieces of Tal-Rasha's set, as it gives you added mf, resists, and soem fcr to boot, making it ideal for finding things. Basically though you will just need to find a balance between killing speed, mf, and survival, and that balance will essentially change depending on what area you are in.
Bare minimum if you want do normal MF runs aka Diablo-Baal-Nilathak is 48FCR assuming you have at very least 11K damage on hammer. Normally you should aim for 75FCR/7-10k hammer for PvM (MFing) and 125FCR/12-15K for PvP
Just to give you some time frames how long should take MF
CS ~2min top including Diablo
Baal run ~3-4 min
Pit ~3-4 min
Shrenk/Eldrich ~10-12 second
Mephisto~90 second (no minions) ~120 second with minions
Travis ~15-20 second
Andy ~60 second
Just to give you some time frames how long should take MF
CS ~2min top including Diablo
Baal run ~3-4 min
Pit ~3-4 min
Shrenk/Eldrich ~10-12 second
Mephisto~90 second (no minions) ~120 second with minions
Travis ~15-20 second
Andy ~60 second
Ok thanks, so a wizard spike or spectral shard would take care alot what i need. Just curious how do you run CS so fast?? Is this using an enigma? I couldn't imagine getting to all the seals and killing all of those minions that quickly. Diablo is a snap after all of that I assume.
Gangles
Gangles
For CS actually you dont need enigma - just any items with teleport will work (Naj's puzzler for example). Within 5 charges you should get in the middle of CS. Here (if you want too) you can do first fight - kill everything within range of your hammer - use redemption to refresh mana and life. After start teleport to seals - ignore any monsters that will attack you, open seal and then again simply kill everything within range of hammer, redemption to refuel - teleport to next seal risen and repeat. Once 5th seal broken - simply run or teleport in the center of star and start hammering area in a first second diablo appirance you should take away from him around 25-30% health because of exiliting hammers. If you do everything correct diablo will die faster then he will able cast single spell
Note though that there are plenty of good items to be had from the bad guys in CS, as well as tons of exp. Also note that using a teleport charged item will cost you alot of money. With enigma of course it's different. You also don't really need 10k hammer damage or any of that, I do fine with about 5700, it just slows you down a hair, though hardly any if you are the only guy in the game.
My equipment for Magic Find runs on bosses is:
Shako {Perfect Topaz} -74% MF
30% Magic Find Amulet -30% MF
Wizardspike
Herald of Zakurum {Perfect Diamond}
Wealth Mage Plate (All the Sorceress' with Skullder's Ires are assholes) -100% MF
48% War Travelers -48% MF
40% Chance Guards -40% MF
2x 30% Nagels -60% MF
30% Gheed's Fortune -30% MF
This equals 382 MF with 74 to all resists (Maximum resists if I socketed my HoZ with an Um rune) and 5.9k Blessed Hammers. I don't have Enigma, but I use Charge and Vigor to run to Durance of Hate 2 fairly fast. So all in all, I can get each Mephisto run under 2 minutes, and find some really nice stuff! Just to tell you though, never put MF gear in front of survival gear.
*Edit* I completely forgot about the whole thing about FCR, well, Wizardspike will give you 50%. I forgot to add I wear goldwraps too, but you could replace that with an Arachnid Mesh for +1 sill and +20% FCR
Shako {Perfect Topaz} -74% MF
30% Magic Find Amulet -30% MF
Wizardspike
Herald of Zakurum {Perfect Diamond}
Wealth Mage Plate (All the Sorceress' with Skullder's Ires are assholes) -100% MF
48% War Travelers -48% MF
40% Chance Guards -40% MF
2x 30% Nagels -60% MF
30% Gheed's Fortune -30% MF
This equals 382 MF with 74 to all resists (Maximum resists if I socketed my HoZ with an Um rune) and 5.9k Blessed Hammers. I don't have Enigma, but I use Charge and Vigor to run to Durance of Hate 2 fairly fast. So all in all, I can get each Mephisto run under 2 minutes, and find some really nice stuff! Just to tell you though, never put MF gear in front of survival gear.
*Edit* I completely forgot about the whole thing about FCR, well, Wizardspike will give you 50%. I forgot to add I wear goldwraps too, but you could replace that with an Arachnid Mesh for +1 sill and +20% FCR