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Fastest way to find JAH rune. Need help

Discussion in 'Single Player Forum' started by dhaos, Aug 7, 2015.

  1. XyleneCyanol

    XyleneCyanol Diabloii.Net Member

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    Thanks Gripphon, very clear and very precise. You also made me realise that I had the wrong calculation about Trav drop in my previous post. I agree, the chance to drop at least one of Ber/Jah/Cham should be:

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    1 - (1 - Ber) * (1 - Jah) * (1 - Cham)
    It should not be the simple "Ber + Jah + Cham" as they are not independent events (this is the factor I forgot to consider, as I simply thought they are mutually exclusive ...). Theoretically, you could get a Ber and a Jah from a single member, is it right?

    I will correct my previous post.

    Cheers.
     
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    dhaos Diabloii.Net Member

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    Wow i like the numbers :D i actually make a blizz sorcerres p8 for Mephi + durance of hate 3 Council members, barbarian WW + item find p3 maybe p5 for Travincal runs, a hammerdin for p8 CS runs and finally will make an Necro CE for do Cow runs p5 maybe p7.
    I expect play 4 hours per week blizz sorc + 4 hours per week WW barbarian and 2 hours per week hammerdin and 2 hours more with the Necro CE probably i double the hours played per week. :oops:
    I decided not play a lot hours per day because maybe came out mad and get a lot stress :mad:
     
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    XyleneCyanol Diabloii.Net Member

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    Ah, one other thing, where did you get the drop probability? It seems quite different from what I get from here: http://dropcalc.silospen.com/item.php
     
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    XyleneCyanol Diabloii.Net Member

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    Good strategy for the long run. Changing is good to keep runs going. Actually, sometimes, I wish I were a robot :D.

    Good luck.
     
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    Gripphon Diabloii.Net Member

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    I use this one:
    http://diablo2.ingame.de/tips/calcs...ch=113&mode=lod&interface=default&window=true

    And yes, it shouldn't be simply A+B+C, but in my method it works since if you make the proper calculation and expand the formulas, you would get to the part where you have Y*X where both Y and X are very small numbers, so we can simply ignore them. That's why it works nicely for very small probabilities.
     
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    Kimppi Diabloii.Net Member

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    That one uses the drop tables from 1.13a or 1.13b, can't remember which one but it's not accurate for runes since the values were changed a couple of times during that time.
     
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    XyleneCyanol Diabloii.Net Member

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    Thank you very much, and yes.

    When a1, a2, a3, ..., an is close to zero, the multiplication terms could be ignored (e.g. a1 >> a1*a2),
    so that 1-(1-a1)*(1-a2)*(1-a3)*...*(1-an) = 1-(1-a1-a2-a3-...-an) = a1+a2+a3+...+an


    Ah, I see. Thanks for the info.
     
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    BBS_Agonistes Diabloii.Net Member

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    Yeah, this thread actually made me respec my lvl 90 sorc to pure Blizzard and run Travincal. On my second set of runs I found Ohm, and both nights added together I found a lot of other useful uniques--Ravenfrost, Wisp Projector, etc. And that's probably in just 100 runs or so, maybe less.

    I'm sure by the time one finds Jah in trav, you'll probably also find a lot of useful jewels, charms, sets, uniques, etc.
     

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