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Farming Profits: Greater Rift 1?

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  1. Flux

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    Farming Profits: Greater Rift 1?

    [caption id="attachment_380759" align="alignright" width="300"][​IMG] Items, gems, and materials earned.[/caption]A fan on Reddit ran a bunch of Greater Rifts on level 1, finishing as quickly as possible and tracking his rewards from an hour of runs. During that time he completed 22 Greater Rifts, all on level 1, averaging less than 3 minutes per clear.

    Farming Profits: Greater Rift 1:

    • 15 legendaries (including 1 set item).
    • ~900 Blood Shards.
    • ~80 marquise gems
    • ~760 Veiled Crystals


    That's a pretty good tally of Shards and Rare Mats for an hour, and a good number of Legendaries as well, and it doesn't include what he scored by gambling those Shards. (Though there's no telling how the RNGesus will reward that portion of the festivities.) There are a lot of other details to fret over, though.

    For one thing, it requires extremely fast movement, since GR1 is a lot like the old days of split farming Normal Act 1 bounties; it's all about movement speed. The OP played a Demon Hunter with both hand xbows from Danetta's Set equipped, which let him Vault almost non-stop, and he picked up nothing but legendary items and whatever the Guardians dropped. Other classes won't be able to fly through so quickly, cutting the rewards / time considerably.

    Also, he didn't include the time to turn the 22 Rift Keystones into GR1 keys. At best that's ~35s each, just opening the Realm of Trials, TPing out, and waiting 20s for the wave clear to fail and Orek to end the trial.

    And of course you've got to gather up 22 Rift Keystones in the first place, which would require dozens of Nephalem Rift clears on T1 or higher. (The clang of disappointment rate seems to be about 50% on T3, and 100% on T6.) But most busy players have 100+ of those Rift Keys by now, so that's time that's already been spent.

    And a player earns negligible experience doing this, since GR1 is equivalent to Normal (except that Torment-only Legendaries can drop).

    All that said, it's an interesting/different way to play, with much lower gear requirements than are necessary to steamroll a T6 rift. Fun for a break from the routine, sometime?
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    Interesting. About speed: the WD can become quite fast with 25% from gear, 30% from the passive "Fierce loyalty", 30% from a rank 25 Boon of the Hoarder and finally 25% from a rank 25 Wreath of Lightning. Thing of the Deep will give you the necessary pickup radius.

    Slightly OT: Is there any hard data regarding differences in drop rate and drop quality between different Grift levels?
     
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    You are right, good catch
     
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    You can add Krelm's Buff Belt too that. And that's pretty much the setup I'm using on my WD to run Grifts. Over 80% run speed atm. All my other characters feel so slow :(
     
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    also interested in the OT: do you get more legendary drops (on average) at higher GR numbers?

    OP's maths is poor on this. He works out that 15 legendaries in 22 runs is 1.46 legendaries per run, which is backwards. 1.46 runs per legendary is correct and sounds a lot less impressive, however fast you are going.
     
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    On low GR levels I tend to get 0 or 1 leg. This persists into the low 20s for me. When I'm trying to set a personal record (30-35) I can get up to 4 legs at times.
     
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    On characters that can easily smash 30 and under grifts I think it's a bit more profitable to take them in order, starting at 1, and completely them as fast as possible. It's pretty mindless but that doesn't bother me.

    For new characters though, starting at Grift 1 and slowly advancing whil doing bounties has been really effective. I'm 1 piece shy of M6 bonus on my DH after two days of play (non-season) with that method, and I hadn't touched her since 2.1 came out.
     
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    I just tried this out with my dh:
    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Tougeznut-1970/hero/49227851

    I was easily clearing gr 1 in 2:45-3:30. I tried this out with 10 runs that barely took longer than 35 min. Ended up with a little over 400 shards, 8 legs, and 100's of rare & blue mats.

    It's a small sample, but comparable to what the OP did. The tremendous advantage over T6 to compare for HC at least:
    Nonexistent chance of death
    Tons of mats collected without having to stop.
    About 1 leg every ~4 min.

    Currently trying to come up with a comparably fast wiz build.
     
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    Anecdotal evidence; I've noticed no diff in leg drops from GR1 up to GR20. I've done all those levels many times with a variety of chars. I often think I'm getting MOAR as I move a character up, but repeatedly I've noticed zero legs dropping when a char has scored a personal high GR clear. And then starting a new series on GR1 speed run I'll get 2 set items.

    Also anecdotal, but players often say that drops really improve over GR30. Often 2-5 legs per Guardian at 30+.

    If anyone has really charted the results in some empirical fashion, I'm not aware of the data.
     
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    I tried this for a bit on a (HC) wizard build built for speed. I was able to clear a GR1 in 2:30s once, but a bunch of times it took over 3 min because of layout.

    I did a GR7 in just over 3 min. So I think that as long as things die instantaneously--my build had everything on the screen dying as soon as I walked by--it might be better to do greater than GR1?
     
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    I was thinking about the time today, playing my HC DH some on EU. I lack Danny's Vault set and my DH on EU doesn't have M6 either, so GR20 is about her current safe max. But I started out on GR1, cleared it in about 4:30, and got a leg. The key upgraded to GR9, which I also cleared in about 5m, and got 2 more legs. I then bumped up to GR16 and got another leg there, and cashed out to upgrade a Boon of the Hoarder. Total time was under 20m, +3 LGem levels, 4 legs, and for just 1 Rift Key.

    Not record breaking or anything, but for a semi-geared char who is far from T6 running, it was a nice profit in a short time. Better than I'd have done from just doing GR1 3-4 times, plus far more exp and the LGem upgrade as well.
     
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    If you can clear T6 Rifts (not Greater) fast you'll get just as many Leg. and you can use Boon to get gold. Additionally you get MOAR xp and Blood Shards.
     
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    Big difference for Hardcore is getting very close to the same benefits of T6 without any of the risk. And you'll actually get more shards out of grifts since they don't vary lile regular rifts.
    T6 = ~90-110
    Gr25 = 115

    But regarding gr1 I think it's 40 shards. Since I clear T6 in ~8 minutes and gr1 in 3 that gives me about the same shards.
     
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    I'm finding this a pretty effective way to gear up an undergeared alt - cruising through normal-equivalent difficulty and getting torment items. It definitely takes the pain out of gearing up an alt.

    I have some more (limited) data of my own:

    11 (lvl 1) Grifts
    legs: 12
    Veiled Crystal (VC): 450

    11 (lvl 10-13) Grifts
    legs: 9
    VC: 450

    11 (lvl 14-17) Grifts
    legs 14
    VC: 450

    11 (lvl 17-19) Grifts
    legs: 9
    VC: 500

    *this is isn't including legs from gambling

    So it looks like the amount of VC you get (at least to lvl 17) is fairly constant.
     
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    all im gonna say is danettas set
     
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    I always do this on new lvl 70 chars . I also do the Grifts 1 lvl at a time which really slows things down , but sometimes I can get 5-6-7 and a couple of times 8 Grifts in a row with 0 drops .

    Now after running T6 constantly for weeks with absolute crap drops , mainly 0-1 legendary , I opt to run a few Grifts 25 and up just for a drop or 2 . Lvl 30 I cap out on and lvl up my alts gems , not too bad a fail rate at lvl 30 , although once I did get a 90% fail/fail/fail which pee'd me off no end :p
     

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