Famine or Hands of Justice?

Nu.Era

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Famine or Hands of Justice?

I only have 1 pt into Zeal, so my zealot relies on Ignore Target Defense and elemental damage (I use Holy Freeze + Holy Shock).

Which is better? I'm leaning towards Hands of Justice because I just think it would be cool to have both Holy Fire and Holy Freeze/Holy Shock at the same time.

BTW, I intend to use this guy as a DClone killer, so the PVM on Famine would allow me to remove Nature's Peace and replace it with another ring.

On a related note, if I had HoJ on with a Level 16 Holy Fire, would Salvation (A Synergy) add to the damage?
 

general_tso18

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I'm pretty sure the salvation would affect the holy fire damage, but it would still be pretty insignificant. Holy fire is much, much worse than freeze or shock. You'll do much, much more damage with famine. The elemental damage you'll get from that is much greater than that you'll get from HoJ.
 

xts3

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It depends on what he's putting it in, Famine can only be used in AXES or hammers. If I were him I'd go with doom if he can afford it. IMHO with it's insane mods and -57% cold resist, its hard to beat as frost zealot.
 

hydrocarbon

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I'm fairly sure that synergies do not affect always-on aura's.

As far as weapon choice, I think you should go Beast - gives you fanat in addition to holy shock / freeze, and also has nice strength bonus, and crushing blow [very useful for dclone], and also has prevents monster heal. You could make it either in a Zerker for optimum damage and retail value, or potentially in a caduceus with nice +Skills.
 

Nu.Era

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Thanks for all the input!

I've decided to use a Famine.

I would use a 'Doom' only that the Ignore Target Defense mod is what makes my build work since I don't have to dump points into Zeal and etc.

BTW, I don't think I could use Holy Freeze and Fanta at the same time. Beast gives +1 to Fanta while Doom or HoJ has aura while equiped.
 

Nu.Era

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AuraAllan said:
If your build relies on ITD how are you gonna hit DC?

~Aura
lol, doesn't work on him? :flip:

Doh, the build was suggested by my friend since I had no idea how to build a zealot. I suppose I'll just leave and and rebuild him into a fanta zealot or smiter.
 

AuraAllan

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Nu.Era said:
lol, doesn't work on him? :flip:

Doh, the build was suggested by my friend since I had no idea how to build a zealot. I suppose I'll just leave and and rebuild him into a fanta zealot or smiter.
Yea. Sorry. ITD only works only normal monsters. Not bosses.

~Aura
 

Uhgii

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You could always just find some ways around it...

If its purely a DClone killer, then you may wish to remake if you can't find a good alternative... however, the ITD will work fine for most of PvM, and when it comes to a boss, I suppose you could switch up both rings and your amulet for angelics, load up on some AR charms, and use an enchant pre-buff from a demon limb...

My teslafister relies a lot on ITD, since CMPB is my end-game weapon, as it is with most tesladins/teslafisters/teslafrosters... and what I said above is what I do, and it works fine so far... the AR isn't incredible, but it works out okay.

But as I said, if this build is purely boss-killing/DClone-killing, you may want to consider rebuilding...
 

xts3

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AuraAllan said:
Yea. Sorry. ITD only works only normal monsters. Not bosses.

~Aura

That also includes uniques, super uniques and champions just so he knows. And there are tonnes of those in hell. Relying on ITD alone is never a good idea.
 

AuraAllan

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xts3 said:
That also includes uniques, super uniques and champions just so he knows. And there are tonnes of those in hell. Relying on ITD alone is never a good idea.
Thats why i said "normal" monsters. Thanks for clearing it up anyway.

~Aura
 

Sigur Rós

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Nu.Era said:
BTW, I don't think I could use Holy Freeze and Fanta at the same time. Beast gives +1 to Fanta while Doom or HoJ has aura while equiped.

Beast gives level 9 fant when equipped. So it is possible to use holyfreeze and fant at the same time.
 

Jek

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hydrocarbon said:
I'm fairly sure that synergies do not affect always-on aura's.
It does work, it's why my Holy Fire/Conviction/Hydra/FoH paly is viable. :)
 

VaL

Banned
lol thats not viable because of the hydraand holy fire i cant tell you taht much, lol the conviction and foh is more than enough.
:scratch: why waste an item on hoj when you could use something to better your lightning damage?
 

Jek

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VaL said:
lol thats not viable because of the hydraand holy fire i cant tell you taht much, lol the conviction and foh is more than enough.
:scratch: why waste an item on hoj when you could use something to better your lightning damage?
Because everyone and their brother is prepared for lightning when facing a paladin? :)
 

Jek

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VaL said:
so youre gonna kill them with hits that deal 90-100 fire dmg lmao gl :thumbsup:
Yes. After PvP penalty it'd do about that, and then count in -resists from Conviction and HoJ - which will most likely result in about -75 resists. (175 avg fire per hit) and then count in how savage conviction is to their defense and how fast zeal hits... (and don't forget about the Hydras :))

And if stacking against fire you'll just go FoH. :evil:
 
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