[EuL] What build 4 Darkforce Spawn + Death's web

[SeeThe]

[EuL] What build 4 Darkforce Spawn + Death's web

Hi all necro gurus.. i'm a guest here on this necro forum, having played 4-5 amas in succession (multis and strafers) to lvl 8x. a close friend of mine found a darkforce spawn head, and yesterday i found an unid unearth wand, which is death's web on arreat summit.

instead of trading it for a wf, i was wondering what build would be good with the use of both darkforce and death's web. i've got a viperskin, but am too poor to afford an enigma or bramble.

so, without spending too much time poring thru the skill tables when i could be gaming and mfing, could anyone kindly give their suggestions on what build would be good with these 2 items?

i'm using 56k dialup, so i'm afraid that a full-on summoner would be too heavy on my system. what you guys call a poison nova mancer (poisonmancer or venomancer? sorry, i dont know) or a bone spear / spirit mancer (Bonemancer?).. are they viable builds with these items?

i hardly pvp. and would love to have a build that can do mf runs in hell on the standard mf-ing areas like pits / meph / shenk / eldritch and even baal..

your advice is very much appreciated.. many thanks!
st

 

[soulesschild]

poisonmancer, deaths web is THE weapon to use

 

[Wubbie]

Poisonmancer is teh build for those 2 items.

20 poison dagger
20 poison explosion
20 poison nova
1-10 lower resist
1 boneprison

Should be ownage in pvp. Lower res, then prison them, poison nova's till 1hp then teeth them to death.

 

[SeeThe]

thanks soulless, btw interesting guide you did there..

also thanks wubb, however i hardly pvp, having a preference for pvm / mfing. would your suggested build be as effective in pvm?

also wondering if there are any necros who have done both bspear and bspirit as well as pnova.. how does these two skills compare? which would be able to clear faster and also survive in hell?

i cant afford bramble as suggested in the guides.. only have an avg viperskin.. will prolly up that. on the other hand.. how about a TO armor, glove and 1 other piece measure up on a psn mancer?

lastly.. if i were to put 20 each into dagger/explo and nova.. would any of you think it's advisable to build up a small skele army for tanking? or how shd i tank? also, shd i get a lightning merc?

thanks

st

 

[fallen angel of satan]

well if you look over the last few pages you will probably see me proclaiming about how much I love poisenmancers lol, but without enigma nova is too slow pvp hehe.

and for pvm you have a much cheaper option than darkforce, trangs head belt and glove, nice and easy to get and also very effective for poisenmancer

and you max your poisen tree very quickly, so you can get secondry skills like bone spirit or abit of an army or summit I do 8k nova(no bramble just viper) and 2.5k spirit and can solo hell no problems

 

[SeeThe]

thanks faos.. i've seen your name pretty often in these threads as i'm searching for a build.. *i'm taking it to the extreme, am using excel to roster out skill points at each clvl :cheesy: *

I'll hang on to the death's web and get, as you advised, TO armo, wing and claws.. which shd get me a +25/-25 as well as ~40FireR, 30ColdR, 50LiR and 40PsnR. Cant afford TO belt just yet..

Just curious, after maxxing out Psn dagger/explo/nova with 1 in PnB pre-req.. as well as 7 1-pointers in curse until LR, i'm looking at 70points not counting quest points. how could you have achieved a 2.5k BSpirit and still manage to fund a 'small army'? how are your other skill allocations?

IN summary, i'd be using death web w/o facets, TO armor/wing/claws, marrowwalks, nos belt (until i can afford arach), +2necro ammy, fcr rings and mabbe a +1 or +2 necro circlet (cant remember exact details on circlet). NO SKillers :hanky: :scared:

apart from the 70 points mentioned above, i'll prolly put in 20SM and 10RS.. seemingly insufficient.

oh yea.. will also have a act3 Li sorcmerc with cresmoon phase, Lore and prolly glad bane or something..

just looking at this plan on paper.. i'm worried about tanking.. and to a lesser degree the amt of psn dmg that i can dish out..

many thanks again for all of your opinions..

*sometimes the design of your next character can be as, if not more, fun than the actual gaming*
st

EDIT : btw.. can necros leech mana / life with Pnova?

 

[fallen angel of satan]

You asked about how 2.5k bone spirit. 1 point in every summen skill = 10 points points for lr=7 61 points to fully synergize poisen. we are now at 78 skill points. At level 92 Ive had acces to 103 skill points so I still had a possible 25 free points. 1 in corpse explosion, 1 in spear,max spirit, now my final points went into wall. That combined with the marrowalk bug give me about 2.5k spirit damage. But I do use 5 skillers and anni.


As for poisen damage Ime guessing 5-7k depending on how good the deaths web spawns and wether ur circlet is +1 or +2.

And for tanking, bone armour with marrowalk bug (even 1 point ion BA) gives over 700 more tanking points vs physical, and 1 point in every summen skill creates a godly meat shield, which means my nec almost never gets hit.

I think your biggest weakness will be when you meet immune that arnt broken by LR because even if you do get spirit that damage will only be 1xxx which isnt super high

O and hang onto darkforce because 1 day you will want to make a bone nec and that head is very nice

and no you cant leech mana or life with nova, just like any caster spell

If I had the time id write a guide on pvm poisenmancer hehe, because there seemed to have been quite a few people interested recently, and I think the only guide is pvp isnt it?

 

[SeeThe]

yup.. you're right that the only poisenmancer guide is on pvp.

would your build still be viable without the 5 skillers and anni? those are the things that i dont have, nor can afford.

what i can afford however is to get trangoul's gloves and shield. turns out that the death web is CRAP.. +1PnB with 41% -enemy psn resist. would it still be workable on a psn mancer or is it too crappy?

after looking at the guides and your advise, the psn mancer does look interesting to build. my final gear would be 3 pcs Trang oul (Arrmor, shield, gloves for +25/-25), my crappy death web, +1marrowwalk, +2necro circlet, +2 necro ammy and some sorc FCR rings or maybe a raven as well. no skillers or anni. Soooo.. what do you think?

after reading your post.. i'll start this psn necro.. and will PM you how it went in a few weeks :winner:

thanks again for your help! have a cold on on me! :drink:
cheers
st

 

[fallen angel of satan]

hehe, good luck, yea it is still viable although you will be quite abit slower, unlucky on the stats of deaths web :/ mine is 1/-54/4 thats with a -5/4die facet in

and certainly is fun