Ethereal items with charges...repair?
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omgwtfbbqpwned
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Re: Ethereal items with charges...repair?
Nope. You use them, they're gone.
Nope. You use them, they're gone.
Nimbostratus
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Re: Ethereal items with charges...repair?
Nope. Really annoys me too, since items with charges don't spawn with their max number (i.e. things that spawn with 15 of 25 charges, even though it never had, nor ever will have 25 charges).
Nope. Really annoys me too, since items with charges don't spawn with their max number (i.e. things that spawn with 15 of 25 charges, even though it never had, nor ever will have 25 charges).
Re: Ethereal items with charges...repair?
Ethereal modifies the base damage of the weapon which gets modified by on-weapon ED and then off-weapon ED. So that +50% from ethereal might end up dealing more damage than the HotW.Wow that is completely retarded and ridiculous...I guess I'll make Oath in a non eth axe then
eth = 50% damage
lvl 16 heart of the wolverine = 125% damage, 130% ar, +643 life
sirpoopsalot
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Re: Ethereal items with charges...repair?
Actually, it's not as simple as that (edit: referring to gbones' post, not olbaid's). HoW is off-weapon damage, while etherealness is on-weapon damage. On-weapon damage is better (though I'm much too lazy to figure out the balance points). Also, the spirit will get killed by monsters. Quite often. And it'll definitely die every time the you get stuck fighting a group of really tough enemies (so when you want it the most, it's virtually guaranteed to get killed)...
... The AR boost is nice though.
But I'd take the ethereal Oath in a heartbeat.
Actually, it's not as simple as that (edit: referring to gbones' post, not olbaid's). HoW is off-weapon damage, while etherealness is on-weapon damage. On-weapon damage is better (though I'm much too lazy to figure out the balance points). Also, the spirit will get killed by monsters. Quite often. And it'll definitely die every time the you get stuck fighting a group of really tough enemies (so when you want it the most, it's virtually guaranteed to get killed)...
... The AR boost is nice though.
But I'd take the ethereal Oath in a heartbeat.
Re: Ethereal items with charges...repair?
damage +50% then +210-340% Enhanced Damage (varies)
vs
damage +210-340% Enhanced Damage (varies) +125% HOW
or in the case of ettin axe (lets assume a perfect roll):
norm:
33 to 66 becomes 112 to 224
and HoW is 140 to 280 (210 final average)
eth:
49 to 99 becomes 166 to 336 (no how) (251 final average)
And that gap only widens with any %ed from items/auras which get factored in before HoW I bet...
damage +50% then +210-340% Enhanced Damage (varies)
vs
damage +210-340% Enhanced Damage (varies) +125% HOW
or in the case of ettin axe (lets assume a perfect roll):
norm:
33 to 66 becomes 112 to 224
and HoW is 140 to 280 (210 final average)
eth:
49 to 99 becomes 166 to 336 (no how) (251 final average)
And that gap only widens with any %ed from items/auras which get factored in before HoW I bet...
krischan
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Re: Ethereal items with charges...repair?
The ethereal bonus gets applied on its own multiplier.
(Base damage * X * (1 + on-weapon%ed/100) + minmaxdmg)*(1 + off-weapon%ed/100)
with X being 1 for normal weapons and 1.5 (i.e. 1 + 50%) for ethereal weapons.
Etherealness is far better than the bonuses from the charges, as they are added to the off-weapon part which is usually very big already (auras, skill, str/dex, bonuses from non-weapon equipment go into there) .
The ethereal bonus gets applied on its own multiplier.
(Base damage * X * (1 + on-weapon%ed/100) + minmaxdmg)*(1 + off-weapon%ed/100)
with X being 1 for normal weapons and 1.5 (i.e. 1 + 50%) for ethereal weapons.
Etherealness is far better than the bonuses from the charges, as they are added to the off-weapon part which is usually very big already (auras, skill, str/dex, bonuses from non-weapon equipment go into there) .