Eth Obedience Charger

[Still-Xey-Lover]

Eth Obedience Charger

I found an eth thresher and i'm gonna make an obedience in it soon, and i wanna try and kill some tppk sorcs. From what i've understood, the goal is to try and make your gear look like cheap hammerdin gear, while still gaining huge res. Here's what i have down so far for gear/skills. rockstopper, the obedience, a raven and dwarf if i can get them, GA or durry (50 cold res, 20 all res and life/str!!), a 19 all res ammy, tearhaunch, bfists, and a rare res/life belt. 20 charge, 20 might, 20 in vigor, 1 pt. concentrate. Use concentrate aura on switch with like a shard and steelcash and then switch to might + charge. Anything crucial i am missing here, besides the res charms?

 

[The Cow King]

I am definately not an expert, and I guess most TPPK'ers use Spirit, but if they have max block you have 3/4 change of dying. If you miss it's bye bye.

 

[Rekoc]

Lots of life!

If they use spirit AND have max block, then they have no life because I think the block on monarch is 47%

 

[Rygor]

Good luck to you! Kill those damn TTPKers 8)

 

[PawnOfChaos]

Couple things...

Most tppker's wont duel anyway.

You'll find that your damage might get high enough that you can use salvation as your charging aura (at least against cold sorcs). I've done this in the past and found that I still could 1 hit sorcs, and this way I had stacked res.

Good luck to ya

 

[Still-Xey-Lover]

I doubt any tppkers have max block, and if they do then i can charge all day because i will absorb most of their dmg.

Do you reccomend durry's armor for the res, str and life or GA for the extra max res and skill?

 

[Master Zap]

I reccomend GA for the res and other goodies. I also reccomend you only use the polearm as a level 21 prebluff chant (fire damage and ar) and use something else, prefferably 1 handed and high damage so you have have a res shield. on all the time. With ga plate you will have 90 all res this way ontop of your sorb ( use tgods belt, 20 light sorb made 40 light sorb with blackhorn helmet, 2 ravens 40 cold sorb, rising ammy 50 fire sorb)

effectively have 90/95 all res, 40-50% Sorb all and high life, max block. Elemental damage dealers cant touch you. Only phy and magic damage can hurt.

 

[PhatTrumpet]

I suggest you build him like Driftwood and stay the hell away from high-level Mercs.

:tongue:

 

[AzaZaz]

alright, since I've killed my fair share of tppk's and ITH users (back in the day) with this build (or a variation [again back in the day]) I'll give you some tippos.

- I always used lionheart. GA is certainly doable, but I found with this build that my life in the end wasn't very high, lionheart can help greatly.

- It's cheaper to get res charms then life charms....think about it.

- No tppk sorc will have max block

- Most tppk sorcs have auto-town on mouse-over

- Cause of death will be Merc 4/5 times

- No amount of absorb will save you from a max shot from a light sorc

- Have 2 ravens/2 dwarfs/rising sun sitting around ready for switch depending on who you fight.

- I use a stacked res shield/junk wpn and salvation to run around and judge what i'm against, then switch to might/wpn for charge

- If you can't shift-charge properly/effectively, don't bother making this char

 

[YouHaveMail]

I did that exact same thing. I took out a few TPPKers last season on west
E Obedience
Lionheart
Guillame's
Crap Smiter stuff on switch
Tgods
Dwarf/raven
I took down many a GMerc newb too so might wanna change it
I forgot the rest, but make sure to drink thawings and use salv. 5% of tppkers have max block.

 

[AzaZaz]

i didnt bother with guil's, I like Stopper for the multiple benefits, but to each their own.


Definately make sure you're chugging thawing pots pre-fight tho

 

[Socialism]

NO time to read this, have to run to White Stripes concert --

BUT-- nobody will have the gear to firebolt tppk you for another month++, so I'd go 2x Ravens for now!

 

[Still-Xey-Lover]

thank yeh for all the tips, but i just realized how expensive ravens are, so that might be a huge stalling point for a little while, probably the same with rising sun if i can even find one for tradizzle.

edit: can lightning sorks pk ? and wil lthis build be able to take a bone nec or windy?

 

[rachil0]

- Most tppk sorcs have auto-town on mouse-over

How do you counter this - I don't think I've ever delivered a charge that was not namelocked. Can you shift charge to a spot, and you'll connect if a non-namelocked opponent is in weapon range?

Or do you try to charge past them and get yourself snagged/hung on them, and then he swings out?

Either option sounds pretty tough.

 

[AzaZaz]

Shift charge is the only option that I ever really use....and is still pretty difficult to execute...especially since I can't really practice it with anyone.

 

[AgentMarth]

One thing I am wondering, how do you plan to charge them while they are in town?

I may have missed something here, but most Tppk'ers are just that, they try to kill you while portaling into town. Its not like their attempt will fail, then they will choose to go back out from town to try again. Sure you may be able to tank an Ice Blast, but what else is the point when they will not try to fight you face to face fair and square. They will hide in town and not fight you.

So unless you start getting names of tppk'ers and hunting them down, I don't see how you will get many kills. Even then, once you hostile them, I don't think they will stay in game or were you can hurt them.

Or am I just missing something important here?

 

[Barrynor]

tsk tsk...

my friend, for so long you have basked in my glory, yet still you fail to understand the most basic of needs for any cheap-*** pk.

What do you want to defeat? TPPK cold sorcs. What do you max out first as a paladin? Cold resistance, if only because it will give you a 95% resistance to cold, passivly, as long as the aura is active, and 131% boost on cold resistance. Especially if you can charge with Salvation on... charge with Cold resistance on. Hell, since nobody ever uses the aura I seriously doubt any TPPK sorc will recognize it.

So, thats 131%, only the odd 200% to go for topped out resistance. Slap a few thul runes in a 3 or 4 sock armor and 3 sock helmet, and presto, another oooooh uhh (my brain hurts, its 8:19 AM here) lets say 7 runes equals 210% Cold resistance... umm yeah. so, you just keep it in your inventory untill the fight starts and then you switch it, easy as pie.

 

[Chiller_babe]

Shift charge is the only option that I ever really use....and is still pretty difficult to execute...especially since I can't really practice it with anyone.

Well you can only practice it with people you consider disposable anyway

 

[AzaZaz]

tsk tsk...

my friend, for so long you have basked in my glory, yet still you fail to understand the most basic of needs for any cheap-*** pk.

What do you want to defeat? TPPK cold sorcs. What do you max out first as a paladin? Cold resistance, if only because it will give you a 95% resistance to cold, passivly, as long as the aura is active, and 131% boost on cold resistance. Especially if you can charge with Salvation on... charge with Cold resistance on. Hell, since nobody ever uses the aura I seriously doubt any TPPK sorc will recognize it.

So, thats 131%, only the odd 200% to go for topped out resistance. Slap a few thul runes in a 3 or 4 sock armor and 3 sock helmet, and presto, another oooooh uhh (my brain hurts, its 8:19 AM here) lets say 7 runes equals 210% Cold resistance... umm yeah. so, you just keep it in your inventory untill the fight starts and then you switch it, easy as pie.

It's nice to have a little versatility.

Killing all trappers, any kind of sorc.


And it's not like the gear is really expensive anyways. Rockstopper, Lionheart.



You could build 3 seperate pallys that way, 1 for each element. But you'd never know what the sorc is gonna throw at you until you're outside running around (or the telegraph it for you).


I like spending a little more for the versatility.


You certainly don't go broke if you lose this gear

 

[YouHaveMail]

It's nice to have a little versatility.

Killing all trappers, any kind of sorc.


And it's not like the gear is really expensive anyways. Rockstopper, Lionheart.



You could build 3 seperate pallys that way, 1 for each element. But you'd never know what the sorc is gonna throw at you until you're outside running around (or the telegraph it for you).


I like spending a little more for the versatility.


You certainly don't go broke if you lose this gear

ftw. its not just cold sorcs now. you'll find the cocky one, my 59 took out a few 9x tppks but theres always fire. and trapsins are ezpk.