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Eth 267% Rune Master...what to socket?

Discussion in 'Paladin' started by Zroc, Mar 24, 2004.

  1. Zroc

    Zroc IncGamers Member

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    Eth 267% Rune Master...what to socket?

    Looks very impressive...I'm thinking about sticking this on a pvp charger.
    My question is, what to socket it with?
    1 Zod, obviously...but the other four...

    Ber- 20% Crushing Blow? Not sure how effective crushing blow actually is in pvp...it's capped at 1/10 against players, and then reduced by physical resistance, no? Meaning against 2000 hit points, it'd do 100 damage against 50% dr?

    Ohm- 50% Enhanced Damage? Seems like a good choice, being IAS doesn't really seem to matter for charge...

    Lo- 20% Deadly Strike? Doubling my total physical damage seems like a good thing to me, particularly with a massive damage skill like charge. Any cavets/bugs I should be aware of here? Someone told me there's some cap/divisor on deadly strike, but I thought that was only when one had critical strike (which I won't)...

    Um- 25% Open Wounds? I kinda like this in pvp, as it seems to do a little over 500 damage unresistable against players...

    Any other options?

    I'd dig your thoughts on it...this is kind've a project for me, and I'd like your ideas on the best runes or combos to go with on this.
    Thanks!
     
  2. TheKbob

    TheKbob IncGamers Member

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    Can we get the listed damage?

    My thoughts would be:

    With lvl 20 fant, you will need 90% ias to get that thing swinging 4fps so I can see:

    20% From Highlords
    20% From Some Gloves

    That is 40% ... You will need to put 50% in weap, so the only thing I see is 4x ed/ias jewels :xx:

    ~Kbob

    Project hehe, my project is collecting Ber and Sur and trying to make Eternity in an ethereal Caddy I have... it's so hard :hanky:
     
  3. ch33s3 m4st3r

    ch33s3 m4st3r IncGamers Member

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    you dont need ias for charge...

    id say zodumumumum for 100% ow goodness, and the only thing expensive is the zod
     
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    jumbo_SHRIMP IncGamers Member

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    the damage should be 183-367...pretty nice

    4 ohms = 283-567 damage also pretty nice

    id personally go 2x lo+2x um or
    3xlo+1x um

    phelix
     
  5. Zroc

    Zroc IncGamers Member

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    Yeah, kbob, purely charger weap (though if I went 3 or 4 ums, it could be a nice hit-and-run smiterer weap, and still pack a punch if the charge hit).

    Exactly, ch33s3 m4st3r...I almost did that right away, but then I started thinking that with some Lo's and Ohms, I might actually score some one-hit knockouts...

    jumbo_SHRIMP: pretty close...the 267% is 179-363. Don't forget Diablo rounds down everything first, i.e. 33 min damage + 50% from eth is 49.5...which = 49 to the game, then + 267% = 179.83, which = 179 to the game. With four ohms, I'd be 277-561, 419 average. That's pretty sick, actually...a 400% Eth Botd Zerker is 179-530, 354 average. That's a pretty big 18% improvement over 400 BotD, and I particularly like the tighter damage spread and 100 higher minimum damage.

    But would subbing a Lo or two be better?
    Grrr, this is tough.
     
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    iceball_aarf IncGamers Member

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    K, lets see what is better, Highlords+Gores at lvl 90= 48%DS; Lo= 20% DS each, lets see what gives more dmg :D

    K, in pure dmg the best combo is the one with 2 ohms and 2 lo´s, the standing was like this:

    2O+2L = 648 avg (counting DS)
    3O+1L= 641.5 avg
    4O+0L= 619.5 avg
    1O+3L= 616.5 avg
    0O+3L+1Um= 542 avg

    Btw for pure charge i don´t know how good will be an extra chance of open wounds, seeing the kind of dmg that you will be packing...


    Btw just for comparison´s sake a perfect 15% superior eth BoTD would do an average of 539.5 accounting the 48% of deadly strike...
     
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    wisedoor IncGamers Member

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    I would put one of these definitely:
    Zod Lo Lo Ohm Ohm
    or
    Lo Ohm Zod Ohm Lo
    or
    Ohm Lo Lo Ohm Zod <=- i like this best
    or
    Lo Ohm Lo Ohm Zod
     
  8. Omikron8

    Omikron8 IncGamers Member

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    How amazing....considering each example has the same runes
     
  9. laban

    laban Banned

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    I think it's meant as a joke Omikron8

    btw, I like the "LoLoOhmZodOhm" better...

    (That way you both get the "LoL", "oO" and "dOh" in there ^^)
     
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    ch33s3 m4st3r IncGamers Member

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    i think the best look would be

    zod ohm lo ohm lo

    that way the zod is in the middle and you get 2 ohms on the left and 2 los on the right
     
  11. Zroc

    Zroc IncGamers Member

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    K, think I figured it out. I'll ignore gores/etc for the moment, cuz they'd apply no matter what I socketed.

    The eth 267% runemaster by itself does 179 to 363.
    For reference, my charge damage with that 267% runemaster is 3500-7000, so average damage is 5250.
    5250 times .17 is 892, cut in half by dr is 446.

    If I went 2 ohms 2 Los, this would give me a 228-462 rune master.
    My charge damage then should be roughly 4800-9700, 7250 average.
    7250 times the .17 pvp hit is 1232, cut in half by 50% dr is 616. This would be my non-DS'd damage.
    For simplicity, say my DS is 50%...half the time I do 616, half the time 1232, so my average would be 924.

    Not too bad.

    However, if I went with 3 ums, and since I wear gore riders, I'd be looking at adding 533 pure, unresistable, bone-shield/energy-shield bypassing damage.
    Just adding 533 to that plain 437 I'm doing gives me 979.

    BIG side-benefit? Those 3 ums and gore riders basically mean that my smite is going to have an impact, even though I haven't built a smiter. If I charge in and miss, I can smite and charge-retreat, and still do at least 533 damage. With 2 ohms/2 Los...smite will do nothing for me.

    Damage and DS are just basically uber nerfed by the .17 and 50% dr.

    So I think I'm going Zod, 3 ums, and a 40 ED/15% IAS jewel. That 15% IAS actually hits a smite breakpoint for me, which is good should I need it. Should be a pretty nice charge/smite weapon.

    End result should be I'll do roughly 1100-1200 average damage should I hit with smite, and roughly 600 if I miss (smite, retreat).

    Whatcha think?
     
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    memememe173 IncGamers Member

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    That should work...it is 5 socket though? I got a 263%//4 socket, and it's all but useless:hanky:, if you get a Zod in mine you might as well go for BotD...
     
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    Zroc IncGamers Member

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    Yep, 5-socket 267% ED. It's a nice one ;)
     

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