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Enigma question

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  1. snowBlizz

    snowBlizz IncGamers Member

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    Enigma question

    I have a little question here
    if my armor enigma has 1000 def, and the extra def is 760, and the ed is 15,
    will the def then be 2045
    (1000+760: 100=17.6 x 115=2024)

    or will the total def only be 1000, coz the 760 extra def and the 15 ed already is added?
     
  2. Orphan

    Orphan IncGamers Member

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    If the total defense of the armor after you have made it says 1000, then it'll be 1000. After you've made the runeword, any defense modifications on the armor itself (including the superior mod, and any defense values granted by the runeword) will already have taken into account for the armor. If you're enigma armor is indeed displaying 1000 defense, and you rolled a +760 defense from the enigma runeword, and the armor has 15% Enhanced Defense, then the armor's base defense was 209.

    If you want to determine how much an enigma armor's defense will be, just remember that straight +defense is calculated after the % defense on the armor itself. So basically, it would be:

    Base Armor Defense * Superior Defense + Straight Defense Bonus


    So an enigma made in a 15% superior, 510 base defense archon plate would be (assuming you rolled +760 defense on the enigma runeword):

    510 * 1.15 + 760
    586 + 760
    1346 defense
     
  3. Kull

    Kull IncGamers Member

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    sup armors have max base def thus for archon it is 524 and not 510 ...
     
  4. Orphan

    Orphan IncGamers Member

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    I was just using random numbers off the top of my head :wink3:
     
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    thegiantturtle IncGamers Member

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    Not quite. Armors with ED% have max base def +1, which is 525.
     
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    ael IncGamers Member

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    And that +1 def makes a whole lot of difference.

    /sarcasm
     
  7. Evrae Altana

    Evrae Altana IncGamers Member

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    Hey, it can translate to over a dozen extra points of defense when all the ED is accounted for! :laugh:
     
  8. themachine

    themachine IncGamers Member

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    That and about 100K for repairs each time you go to town.
     
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    thegiantturtle IncGamers Member

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    Nope. That 1 defense is inherent. You can't assign an ingame repair cost for it; you can't get an armor without it to compare.
     
  10. Kull

    Kull IncGamers Member

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    repair cost is expensive only in case armor has extra durability as well.
     
  11. Milb

    Milb IncGamers Member

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    Thats false, all superior items have added repair costs.
     
  12. Kull

    Kull IncGamers Member

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    I see only significant increase in the cost when the item has ed/dura ... I am talking about my personal experince.
     
  13. Milb

    Milb IncGamers Member

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    Just done a quick test, Honor Ettin Axe - none superior = 146 per durability
    15ed no dura Honor Ettin Axe = 1.6k per point
     

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