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Enigma Armor Question on Necro

Discussion in 'Necromancer' started by Trapp, Mar 3, 2004.

  1. Trapp

    Trapp IncGamers Member

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    Enigma Armor Question on Necro

    Can someone explain this armor and the type that I should be looking for. Some of the pictures Ive seen have really high Str requirements. Anyway as you can tell.. Im new but Ill learn god willing. Thanks again.

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    Asheron IncGamers Member

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    My favourite armor choice for Enigma is a Breast Plate since you can have base strength if you use an Annihilus with 15+ Stats.

    You should be able to equip the rest of your gear because of the nice strength bonus it gives.


    It's all about preference ,but to me Stats matter more than ~400 def which doesn't help a necro at all,in my opinion.

    Other popular choices are Light Plate,Mage Plate (can break 1k def) or a Dusk shroud if you really want an elite light armor.
     
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    breast plate 30 str then shuv the str point u sabved into vit!
     
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    Youre... kidding... right... To tell you the truth, I put over 100 str into my nec out of habit, so I can put Enigma into a dusk shroud and be happy. But a Breast Plate on Enigma.... Wow... damn... I'd never do that.
     
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    That's the pvp way buddy.
    This way, your base str can translate into enough to start equipping items. I worked it out on a paladin once for a friend, he had to add like 2 into str (charms actually) to equip EVERY item he had at lvl88. So that translated into a TON of vitality!

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    You all are killing me. Theres just too much to learn in this game. Heh.. Anyway.. Ill keep on the trial and error
     
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    So Enigma on Breast Plate for PvP.. otherwise any low level is decent.
     
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    Well it's a toss up really. Some pvp char's desire HIGH DEFENSE, AND tons of strength.

    So someone say like a BARBARIAN would want an enigma in a high defense light armor (no r/w penalty) and would get a higher base strength, as the str bonus from the armor would only be gravy for his dmg.

    A caster char (hammerdin / necro's) would want a lower str req armor (breast plate) so that the str bonus from enigma would allow them to equip the rest of the gear, thus granting more life.
     
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    Theres too much to learn.. lol.. glad Im stuck in the office today. Lots of time to research.

    By the way.. is there still a viable template for a Necro using a Bow?
     
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    gvandale IncGamers Member

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    What are you aiming to do with him? Just pvm?

    I'd like to think there are a million ways to make a necro viable. Tell me what bow you are looking to use, or I may even suggest some for ya.

    I'll help ya all day. It's raining here, and my phones aren't ringing much in the office, so I'm on a posting spree.

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    Necro was my favorite class back when I played but I mostly did summoners or bone necros. I was given a few poison charms by a co-worker that has talked me into giving the game another shot. (I loved the game before but I never got this deep into making the perfect character). I guess I'm looking for a unique way to administer the poison and overall damage in both pvp/pvm with a Necro. Honestly tho.. I think Im trying to make the necro do something hes not best suited for doing. Id love to use either bow or dagger but I dont think thats best if I also want to pvp. Im in the process of trading about 45 perfect gems to aquire armor and weapons and just trying to find ideas on what to do. Unique Necro or find another outlet.

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    well daggermancer's can be unbelievably sick. HUGE poison dmg, and with poison facets and things like that, you can really get going good.

    The only thing I really see being a problem for a bow weilding (ranger-style) necro is the single shot / single target attack.

    Maybe full on summoner but you use a bow, with TONS of poison charms?

    Maybe a full on venomancer using a bow?

    Check out this x-bow btw:

    Pus Spitter
    Siege Crossbow
    Two Hand Damage:(52-67) - (107-137)
    Required Dexterity:29
    Required Strength:33
    Required Level:36
    Base Weapon S
    Speed:[0]
    +(150-220)% Enhanced Damage
    10% Increased Attack Speed
    +2 to Necromancer Skill Levels
    Requirements -60%
    4% Chance To Cast Level 1 Lower Resist On Striking
    9% Chance To Cast Level 6 Poison Nova When Struck
    +150 Poison Damage Over 8 Seconds
    + (5 Per Character Level) 5-495 To Attack Rating (Based On Character Level)

    QUESTION TO ALL GENIOUS'S
    Poison Dagger only applies itself to DAGGER'S correct? Just checking.
     
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    If I went with Bow or Daggermancer route.. would I need to change my stats and gear or are the basics still pretty much the same?

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    well i think poison dagger only applies on dagger weapons (duhhh!) but I hate to say it that i'm not sure.

    i'd honestly say to go daggermancer route.

    Max out p.dagger / p.explosion / p.nova
    'X' Lower resist curse (depending on gear mods of -lower enemy poison res / +skills) Mana cost stays set @ 22, so do this to your own taste. 1 is usually enough.
    1 clay golem
    1 golem mastery

    If I were to build one, here is exactly what I would want:

    weapon:
    fleshripper
    One Hand Damage: (47-63) - (173-231)
    Durability:36
    Required Dexterity:86
    Required Strength:42
    Required Level:68
    Base Weapon Speed:[-20]
    +(200-300)% Enhanced Damage
    50% Target Defense
    Prevent Monster Heal
    50% Chance of Open Wounds
    25% Chance of Crusing Blow
    33% Deadly Strike
    Slows Target By 20%

    Other good options: Spineripper / Blackbog's

    EDIT: Just saw this option for your weapon, may work nicely w/ crushing blow

    'BLACK' (maces only)
    THUL / IO / NEF (very cheap)
    +120% Enhanced Damage
    Magic Damage Reduce By 2
    +10 to Vitality
    +200 to Attack Rating
    15% Increased Attack Speed
    Knockback
    40% Chance of Crusing Blow
    Adds 3-14 Cold Damage Over 3 Seconds
    Level4 Corpse Explosion (12 Charges)

    armor:
    'bramble ' runeword
    (ral / ohm / sur / eth)
    +300 Defense
    Increase Maximum Mana 5%
    Fire Resist +30%
    5% To Maximum Cold Resist
    Poison Resist +100%
    Regenerate Mana 15%
    50% Faster Hit Recovery
    Level13 Spirit of Barbs (33 Charges)
    +(25-50) To Poison Skill Damage
    +13 Life After Each Kill
    Level (15-21) Thorns Aura When Equipped

    Other good options: Lionheart runeword (hel / lum / fal) / Shaftstop

    boots:
    gore rider
    Defense: (140-161)
    Durability:34
    Required Strength:94
    Required Level:47
    (160-200)% Enhanced Defense
    +10 To Durability
    +20% To Maximum Stamina
    Requirements -25%
    30% Faster Run/Walk
    10% Chance of Open Wounds
    15% Chance of Crusing Blow
    15% Deadly Strike

    Other good options: Marrowalk (for bone armor bug) / war travs (for phys dmg)

    gloves:
    venom grip
    Defense: (97-118)
    Durability:12
    Required Strength:20
    Required Level:29
    +(15-25) Defense
    (130-160)% Enhanced Defense
    Poison Resist +30%
    5% To Maximum Poison Resist
    5% Life Stolen per Hit
    5% Chance of Crusing Blow
    +60 Poison Damage Over 4 Seconds

    Other good options: These are cheap so no point

    belt:
    verdungo's
    Defense: (125-158)
    Durability:16
    Required Strength:106
    Required Level:63
    16 Boxes
    Damage Reduced By (10-15)%
    (90-140)% Enhanced Defense
    +(30-40) to Vitality
    Replenish Life +(10-13)
    +(100-120)% To Maximum Stamina
    10% Faster Hit Recovery

    Other good options: String of Ears / Nosferatu's Coil (more slow)

    Helmet:
    Vamp Gaze
    Defense:251
    Durability:40
    Required Strength:58
    Required Level:41
    Damage Reduced By (15-20)%
    100% Enhanced Defense
    Magic Damage Reduce By (10-15)
    (6-8)% Mana Stolen per Hit
    (6-8)% Life Stolen per Hit
    15% Slower Stamina Drain
    Adds 6-22 Cold Damage Over 4 Second

    Other good options: Rockstopper / Crown of Thieves (high life leech)

    Amulet:
    Highlord's Wrath
    Required Level:65
    Lightning Resist +35%
    20% Increased Attack Speed
    +1 To All Skill Levels
    Attacker Takes Lightning Damage of 15
    Adds 1-30 Lightning Damage
    + (0.375 Per Character Level) 0-37% Deadly Strike (Based On Character Level)

    Other good options: Cat's Eye / Mara's (expensive) / Eye of Etlich

    Ring 1:
    Raven Frost
    Required Level:45
    +(15-20) to Dexterity
    +40 to Mana
    +(150-250) to Attack Rating
    Cold Absorb 20%
    Cannot Be Frozen
    Adds 15-45 Cold Damage Over 4 Seconds

    Other good options: THIS IS A MUST for the cannot be frozen

    Ring 2:
    Bul Katho's Wedding Band
    Required Level:58
    +50% To Maximum Stamina
    (3-5)% Life Stolen per Hit
    +1 To All Skill Levels
    + (0.5 Per Character Level) 0-49 To Life (Based On Character Level)

    Other good options: any miscellaneous ring here really. This is ideal for the life leech / +1 skill / +life, but really it's up to you here

    Shield:
    Homonculus
    Defense: (177-212)
    Durability:20
    Required Strength:58
    Required Level:42
    Chance to Block: Nec:75%
    (150-200)% Enhanced Defense
    +20 to Energy
    40% Increased Chance of Blocking
    All Resistances +40
    Regenerate Mana 33%
    +2 to Necromancer Skill Levels
    30% Faster Block Rate
    +5 Mana After Each Kill
    +2 To Curses (Necromancer Only)

    Other good options: rare necro head / 3 socket shield with Ancients Pledge (Ral / Ort / Tal) you get runes free for doing a5 barbarian quest.

    charms for resistances
    get a might merc (a2 nm offensive)
    I'd dump the rest into raise skeletons w/ 1 in mastery until warrior is maxed.

    Obviously the above mentioned gear is really expensive, but if I were you, go with armors that provide defense, damage reduction (shaft / string / verdungo's / rockstopper), resistances, things like that. Build him in terms of gear the same way you would a pally / druid / barb.

    Stats:
    Strength - Enough for highest req item
    Dex - Enough for 75% Blocking
    Vit - Rest
    Energy - None

    I tell you what. If this is over your budget, I can sell some ladder items to help you buy your non-ladder items. I saw your post on trading forums, and I'd like to help you out.

    Let me know.

    g
     
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    I knew I enjoyed playing Necros for a reason. The community is great. I really appreciate you taking the time to list all that gear. It gives me goals to shoot for and obtain. That gear is way outta my reach right now but thats okay Ill get it one day. I know what to look for and will know what to set my stats at. You really have gone out of your way. If you ever need another lost necro to group up with let me know. When the next ladder season starts I plan to move there so Realm shouldnt matter. (Ive heard rumors that its around the corner). Thanks again.

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    Lets not forget the pdagger bug. If you have pdagger selected while using a non-dagger weapon, the "box" will be redded out, but you will default to your normal attack with the AR bonuses that attack rating gives.

    This is how I made a bowamancer back in 1.09
     
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    Doubtful that ladder will get reset. Just my personal opinion. Remember when everyone speculated that each 'season' would take like 2-3 months...LOL

    So if I could entice you to come over to ladder, I'll hook you up, and my offer still stands to do a L for NL trade to get you going.

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    Okay.. I have my eyes set on a Daggermancer. And Im going to go with Breast Plate Enigma. This gives me options to go PvP later with the maxing out of Vit. Is that right so far?
     

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