Enchantress

[mokujon]

Enchantress

hi guys i was wondering if these are any good. i searched a little but only saw 1 real guide. i was looking for a fun build that you don't see very often and thought this was a good choice. i've had pretty much all types of pvp chars except this and a fury druid and decided to go with this. if anyone knows a good build that would be great help. thanks.

 

[jmsplat]

I've fought dual dream enchantresses before, and I'll admit that I'm quite disappointed. They should rape any char that doesn't have good resists, that's about it

 

[Lyrs]

Unfortunately, everyone has decent resistance and loads of absorb. You'll probably win the first duel only.

 

[nickedoff]

There's like four enchantress guides in the sorceress forum o.o

 

[DIEnamic]

I can show you my enchantress on bnet if you wanna see how much it sucks.

 

[WhiteAlien]

Pure enchantress really sucks. You must have dual dreams one to do decent dmg.

To others who think that melee sorc sucks I'm open for duels.

IMO, you cant kill smiters, foh's, auradins, but you can some hammers with very good tele. Also barbs are killable, but not the very good ones. The rest of the classes are not a big problem.

About resistances. 53k dmg * 0.17 = 9010 PvP dmg, with 75% res = 2252 PvP dmg per hit with 10/7 fps zeal !! Where is problem? It is all about tele, mostly all chars die from 1-2 hits, except barbs.

 

[DIEnamic]

edit lag double post very very sorry

 

[DIEnamic]

well I built my dual dream enchantress according to the guide posted, but it has a myriad of problems that just gimp the build.

first off, there is no way to attain the 30% ias to hit 10/7 zeal while keeping 20% ias for the important fcr bp. I shouldn't say there is no way, you could do it with fcr rings but then you have to lose your angelics which will bump your AR down to pretty much nothing, which is not advised.

another problem is cannot be frozen mod. if you want to kill a bvc, you will need both angelics, but they will be wearing a doom so you're pretty much screwed either way.

the worst part about the build is that there is no possible way you can defeat any of the popular builds, i.e. smiters, foh, hammerdin, auradin, bvc, bva, any sorc, windy druid. 10/7 zeal is not fast enough to hit before any of the forementioned classes can hit you first.

hammerdins are worst of all. its impossible to get close enough to zeal them so you just have to equip widowmaker and tele in circles slowly picking away at their life. even with dream and enchant, widowmaker does next to nothing to hammerdin.

auradin just run away from you will charge around in circles and its impossible ot zeal them so gg there.

sorc has too much fhr and enchantress has too little life so getting close to them is a problem. if you tele on top of them, then its a race between your slow 10/7 zeal and their likely 200 fcr.

smiters will give you some nice smite induced fhr and with exile + holy shield, you will never hit them. even if you manage to break their def with one hit odds are they block it anyway.

bvc have too much def and life and usually tank one hit. since you cant wear dual angelics vs doom wielders you must use ravenfrost, which results in too little AR.

windy is the only popular build that the enchantress has a chance of beating. since they have so low def, and the holy shock pulses kill all their minions and wear away their cyclone armor. you just have to dodge a bunch of tornado and get one hit in before he can tornado you.

my build at lvl 83 is as follows

SorCySauCe lvl 83

max block
800 life without cta or life charms
17k AR
9 light skill gc
62K damage without prebuffed enchant.
76K damage using maras, sojs, magefist, spirit, cta etc

20 warmth
20 enchant
20 fire mastery
20 light mastery
1 energy shield
1 telekenesis
1 thunder storm
1 shiver armor

im not listing the prereqs, just the skills that could use more points.

I chose to go the coh route with max block, which probably was a mistake since it took way too much dex to max block and my block speed is too slow to be effective. guardian angel would be a much better choice since it gives blocking bonuses which results in more vita less dex.

energy shield is a big issue, whether or not to use energy shield and just pump energy instead of vitality/block. but I figured passion phase blade would require 136 dex anyway, so why stop there. with one point in energy shield, the +skills from light skillers absorb enough to make it effective. it allows me to tank one hit of any kind almost, but it deprives me of mana to tele away to run.

 

[matchuk]

lol sorcysauce i think i dueled the enchantress in a pub today or yest with my noob bvc called hmge-pvp

the enchantress had problem breaking even bvc def and dies way too fast to get hits in

 

[WhiteAlien]

I dont know which guide you have used, but there is too many mistakes.

First of all, if you go max block, you must use GA, otherwise it is suicide.
2nd of all, if you intent to use ES you must max TK, its synergie for ES.
3rd - you will never beat smiters, rarely barbs, so why bother so much about AR?
4th - in order to reach 10/7 zeal you need 65% IAS, not 30%

I have made two dream sorc. 1st using ES other max shiver armor. Maxed shiver armor rises your defense from 4k to 6,3k, I found it useless, coz 2,3k more defense realy does not help. She can have:
2,1k life, max block, all res 90% without Anya little overstacked, 10K AR and 53K dmg @10/7 zeal, 20% FCR, 6,3K def

Other build have uses ES, with the same gear she have:
1,8K life, 1,1k mana, max block, all res 90%+, same dmg and AR, 20% FCR and 4K def.

I found that 1,1 k mana is more usefull than more defense, it rises total your hitpoints upto 3K vs 2,1k. Just my point of view.

Now about my killing potential. I have always probelms against palies. Smiters no chance, zeal sometimes, auradins sometimes, hammers often (its matter of very good tele ), barbs sometimes, sorc all the time, assas all the time, amazones - ownage, druids melee - ownage, elemental often, necros often. Generaly its like this, based on puby standarts.

Gear - 2x dreams, GA with 15/15 jewel, ik gloves, boots, arach, 2xravens, maras, passion PB, 5xskillers with life, 4xres GC, 5xsc res, 5xsclife.

Cheers, WhiteAlien

 

[DIEnamic]

I dont know which guide you have used, but there is too many mistakes.

First of all, if you go max block, you must use GA, otherwise it is suicide.
2nd of all, if you intent to use ES you must max TK, its synergie for ES.
3rd - you will never beat smiters, rarely barbs, so why bother so much about AR?
4th - in order to reach 10/7 zeal you need 65% IAS, not 30%

I have made two dream sorc. 1st using ES other max shiver armor. Maxed shiver armor rises your defense from 4k to 6,3k, I found it useless, coz 2,3k more defense realy does not help. She can have:
2,1k life, max block, all res 90% without Anya little overstacked, 10K AR and 53K dmg @10/7 zeal, 20% FCR, 6,3K def

Other build have uses ES, with the same gear she have:
1,8K life, 1,1k mana, max block, all res 90%+, same dmg and AR, 20% FCR and 4K def.

I found that 1,1 k mana is more usefull than more defense, it rises total your hitpoints upto 3K vs 2,1k. Just my point of view.

Now about my killing potential. I have always probelms against palies. Smiters no chance, zeal sometimes, auradins sometimes, hammers often (its matter of very good tele ), barbs sometimes, sorc all the time, assas all the time, amazones - ownage, druids melee - ownage, elemental often, necros often. Generaly its like this, based on puby standarts.

Gear - 2x dreams, GA with 15/15 jewel, ik gloves, boots, arach, 2xravens, maras, passion PB, 5xskillers with life, 4xres GC, 5xsc res, 5xsclife.

Cheers, WhiteAlien

I know max block with coh is a mistake. I must use the sorc for pvm purposes without having to pump so much str to wear ga so I went with coh. I don't have the res charms to max my res with ga either.

second of all, I only use energy shield vs the builds that are likely to one hit kill me. like I said, only one point and it's not smart to use it for every duel as it will deprive your mana.

third; why not at least try? with 20k AR there is a small chance to hit and when you do hit, its usually one hit kill. at least give yourself a fighting chance. like I already mentioned, its very hard to take down any decent builds with enchantress.

fourth; you are forgetting the WSM of phase blade combined with 25% ias from passion and 30% ias deaths set gloves and belt. thats the only way I know of for a coh enchantress to attain 10/7 zeal.

I suppose if you could afford a 5 bo cta and an inventory full of vita sc, then it would be a pretty good build. I built SorCySauCe on a 4 HR budget and I must say that its been fun.

I don't understand what these other "mistakes" are. coh and max block wasnt the brightest idea but without a bunch of charms I don't have much choice.

it really just depends on peoples preferances.

ol sorcysauce i think i dueled the enchantress in a pub today or yest with my noob bvc called hmge-pvp

the enchantress had problem breaking even bvc def and dies way too fast to get hits in

lol I remember dueling vs you. I remember a bvc with fade and it was really annoying hitting him for so little damage when I was used to one hitting everyone. you right?

enchantress has too many problems to make it a viable pvp build. I don't see it consistently killing any barb, let alone bvc.

 

[primerib]

The only viable dual dream sorc imo is a 95 es one. The close range, slow zeal speed, low fcr, etc leaves you really open. You need the 95 es desperately to take hits. You can get around 2.7k mana legitly with max block.

 

[matchuk]

there was actually 2 barbs one that was prebuffing fade i wasnt that one, but i remember the room complaining about him prebuffing