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ed jewel and some ot fun

Discussion in 'Single Player Forum' started by dune6836, Apr 4, 2005.

  1. dune6836

    dune6836 IncGamers Member

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    ed jewel and some ot fun

    i have had this..

    Ruby Jewel
    Required Level: 58
    Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
    Item Level: **
    Fingerprint: 0x1d6c8999
    +40% Enhanced Damage
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    for some time now. it makes me smile:) i should like to use it. i want to place it in an ik helm. 2 questions then please.
    first will work properly? i understand there is a bug associated with ed jewels?
    also this is my best ik helm..

    Immortal King's Will
    Avenger Guard
    Defense: 172
    Durability: 31 of 55
    (Barbarian Only)
    Required Strength: 65
    Required Level: 47
    Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
    Item Level: 49
    Fingerprint: 0x4eb1c9db
    +125 Defense
    37% Extra Gold from Monsters
    30% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
    +4 to Light Radius
    +2 to Warcry Skills (Barbarian Only)
    Socketed (2: 0 used)
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    would you wait for a better one or go for it?
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    OT
    http://www.hurtwood.demon.co.uk/Fun/copter.swf
    989 to beat:)
    thanks. dune
     
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    Sint Nikolaas IncGamers Member

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    The jewel will work properly in your helmet. There are problems when using jewels with ED and +max (or min..). I wouldn't hold out on another IK helm, the differences aren't that great. However I would advise you to really think hard about socketing it into that helm. The IK helm can only be worn by barbarians, it's really not that good of a helm (you probably will find a better one sooner or later) and the jewel is pretty decent. I'm not going to advice you against it, just think about it twice :)
     
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    I wouldn't put this jewel into IK Will too. This helm is not so good, but the jewel is very decent. This jewel would be nice in end-game gear (Arreat's Face...).
    EDIT: Unless you don't play IK barb. In that case it's an obvious choice.
     
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    thankyou for the clarification about the bug.
    it was the set bonuses i was thinking about with the helm. if fact the barb in question is using arreats face at the moment.
    if i have worked it out right that jewel would add 1-2k ish damage to this chr, this is not to be sneezed at.
    i havent decided yet. i know its no ruby fervour jewel but its still very shiny, and i wont waste it:)
    also the forum is taking 3-4 mins to load each page for me at the moment so i will return later. thanks for replies. dune
     
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    I think that you don't understand ED mechanics. The average damage difference will be:
    (min weapon damage + min damage from your equipment +max weapon damage + max damage from your equipment)/2 x 0.4

    So if you don't have +damage charms/equipment, you will get (233+320)*0.4/2 more damage using plain IK Maul. That difference is the same for whatever skill you use (the ED is addititive with skill ED and STR ED)

    EDIT: That's why the ED jewels work best with the low +%ED skills as whirlwind or zon's Strafe.
     
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    dune6836 IncGamers Member

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    hmm i think you might be right
    i had assumed that the ed would be added after the damage bonuses from wearing gloves,belt,boots,maul.
    from memory, i have about 200psn damage and 1-40 lightening and a small amout of cold from charms. clearly my initial estimate of ed was a little over-enthusiastic. :D
    live and learn. thanks. dune
     
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    And the elemental damage is not multiplied at all. Only the physical damage is.
     
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    If you are currently wearing Arreats, and if you are not planning on making a full-on IK barb, then I would add the jewel to the Arreats instead of to the IK helm. You'll have to use a socket quest for it, but that's no big deal. All in all, Arreats is much much more useful than the IK helm, even with the set bonuses.
     
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    DMPI_Masher IncGamers Member

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    I second whomhead's comment

    btw...1946 on second try

    - Masher
     
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    Sint Nikolaas IncGamers Member

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    I didn't see the guy mentioning Arreat's.. I think you're putting words in his mouth. Obviously Arreat's is the better choice, however if you don't have it IK helm actually is quite decent. Finding one untwinked with a barb is allways nice. :)
     
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    Thank you and goodnight! :D

    Me: 1
    Sint: 0
     
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    :D

    didn't see the second post.. you can keep the score though, if that makes you happy ;)
     
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    @DMPI_Masher damn mate! you must be way faster than me. probably a decade or 2 younger:p :D
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    i did think about putting it in the arreats, as suggested.
    thanks for the input everyone. at least i am not still in error about what exactly it will do. dune
     

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