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Driud Shapeshifting help

Discussion in 'Single Player Forum' started by SeeiN2StarS, Oct 16, 2006.

  1. SeeiN2StarS

    SeeiN2StarS IncGamers Member

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    Driud Shapeshifting help

    This is my first wolf d00d.
    I have no idea what to max.
    I havent really tried looking into it yet.
    Just kinda guessing right now.
    I am twiking (sp?) him up so i have pretty okay gear.
    This is what i have in mind right now.



    20 to wear wolf
    20 to fury
    20 to grizzly
    1 to prezies and lycanthropy.

    what else yo?
    he is level 21 now. just trying to figure out what does what.
     
  2. Llathias

    Llathias Banned

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    The usual setup is along the lines of:
    20 Fury/Lycanthropy/Werewolf/Spirit (Oak or HoW)
    1 in Grizzly and possibly Carrion Wine.

    additional points in Grizzly (for more dmg), Dire Wolves (for more life to Grizzly), Feral Rage (for more leech and frw).

    Alternatively, you can make a Hybrid, such as a Fury/Rabies wolf, in which you'll obviously be tighter on skill points.
     
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    SeeiN2StarS IncGamers Member

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    thanks much :)

    20 Fury/Lycanthropy/Werewolf/Spirit HoW it is!:azn:
     
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    I'd personally suggest Oak spirit.... not just for HC play, but in general it does a lot more than HoW.
     
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    Dropping some points from Werewolf and adding them to Dire Wolf instead (to synergize Grizzly) is a good idea IMO. I suggest:

    20 Lycanthropy
    20 Fury
    1 - 10 Werewolf
    10 - 20 Dire Wolf
    20 Oak Sage (or Heart of Wolverine)
    1 Grizzly
    1 in each of the prereqs.

    Max Lycanthropy and Fury first (putting one point in each of the others as you move along) and remember to make good use of Feral Rage (charge it up and then use Fury).
     
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    SeeiN2StarS IncGamers Member

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    sweet. other than i put way more into werewolf than you suggested :shocked:
    but this is my first so i suppose i am just experimenting to what i like.

    thanks :thumbsup:
     
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    SeeiN2StarS IncGamers Member

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    sweet. other than i put way more into werewolf than you suggested :shocked:
    but this is my first so i suppose i am just experimenting to what i like.

    thanks :thumbsup:

    ps i started this because i found a sweet rare helm that is +2 druid, +2 fury.
    found a +1 shapeshifting GC.
    a +3 shapeshifting Ammy
    and Islestrike for my lower levels and a Ethereal Edge for the higher ones.
    so i thought. what the hey ive never done it so i think it should be a good time.

    oh i also have a rune master axe (the 5 socketed unique axe) what are some suggestions on what i should put in that. some sweet jewels? or some sweet runes?
     
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    runemaster needs shaels runes. you need fast attack with wolfes and bears and Ias outside weapon is useless for wolfes, for bear is good an amount of 40-60 Oias for another breakpoint.
    use this weapon calculator to see how many shaels you'll need
     
  9. SeeiN2StarS

    SeeiN2StarS IncGamers Member

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    (sorry about the double post)


    i am confused on that also. it says that when i upgrade wearwolf, my attack speed goes up. but i dont see it. maybe i need to open my eyes? could someone explain to me how that works.

    :shocked: what? increased attack speed outside weapon is usless for wolfes? im not sure what that means.
     
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    after few points in werewolf, the IAS that come with WW skill is useless too. the only benefit for maxing WW is to have more AR.
    IAS from items other that weapon is useless on a wolf.(gloves armor helms amulets belts)
    the shapeshifters benefit from the raw IAS on the weapon to have better attack frames. a sheal put in a weapon would give you more damage per time that 20 ias on gloves for example.
     
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    In Hell difficulty, a Reaper's Toll (on your merc) will be invaluable for tackling Physical Immunes. I've tried other approaches for PI's, and there's no comparison to the Reapers. You'll still find a few PI's that can't be broken though.
     
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    i see. thanks a bunch. i spent like 5 hours yesterday and got to act 3 and put almost everything into ww. boo. oh well ill just pretend it didnt happen and keep playing it :)

    EDIT: so your saying that the wearwolf skill does not increase attack speed at all after a certain level? because i swear it comes up like it should.

    why am i being faked out so hard?
     
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    I'll just add a little more confusion to the mix.

    I advise you to spend points in HoW instead of Oak Sage, the reason is:

    When you need the extra life from oak sage it's usually beacause you're taking a lot of damage, that (usually) means that whatever spirit you have will die too, leaving you with less life than you might think you have.

    If you're using HoW you'll get added damage/ar which means you'll kill faster, and when it does die (and it will) you won't loose the life boost from oak, you'll 'just' do less damage. You'll end up with the same life as without oak, but it won't surprise you.

    In short.

    Oak = False sense of security
    HoW = Kill more, faster.

    I realize this has been the cause of much controversy and most likely will continue to be.
    In the end I suppose it's just a matter of personal preference.
     
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    Hi, SeeiN2StarS,

    Adding points into your WW skill will, indeed; increase your attack speed. As will other IAS gear. However, the attack speed for Werewolf form is calculated differently. Without getting too in depth, the only IAS that really matters in Werewolf form is your weapon's speed.

    In Werewolf form, maybe 95% of your overall IAS is based on your weapon's speed. So really you could have insane IAS from other sources, but it would all only contribute a measly 5%. That's the shorthand version, and in no way are the percentages I listed wholly accurate. I think TheDragoon used to have a guide that explained it quite well, be alas, the link is broken.

    Currently I'm working with a Werewolf with only 1 point in WW...20 in Lycanthropy, Rabies, Fury, Poison Creeper and either HoW or Oak Sage. Only 1 point in WW scares me a bit, but perhaps +skill charms will help.

    With that said, the only reason you're putting points into WW is for the attack rating. As nubikoen said, HoW might be better than Oak Sage if you intend to go this route.
     
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    Yes that is the link I tried. Thanks a bunch! Still doesn't make perfect sense to me, but I suppose it doesn't need to. I think im out of questions for now...
     

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