Dragonadin - a Fiery Paladin

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Dragonadin - a Fiery Paladin

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| DRAGONADIN |
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Equipment:
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Helm: Andy's Visage, Harlequin Crest or Crown of Ages
Armor: Templars Might would be a good choice, so would Arky, and of course Enigma and Chains of Honor (as always)
Weapon: Hand of Justice Runeword - i would put it in a scourge instead of the standard berserker axe, since we won't be dealing that much physical, IAS is more important.
Shield: Dragonscale
Gloves: Sander's, Lavagout or Laying on Hands - you're gonna need some IAS when not using Fanaticism.
Belt: Arachnids Mesh, or any other good belt
Boots: nothing special here, Aldur's Advance and Waterwalk, aswell as Gorerider are good options.
Amu: Highlord's or Mara's
Rings:a Bul's or Raven and a Manald Heal, Vengeance costs quite alot of mana.
Other: Socket your stuff with fire facets and um runes - you wont get the resistance bonus from herald of zakarum, and fire facets will give a good dmg boost.

Skills:
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20 vengeance
20 conviction
20 resist fire
~10 holy shield
rest in salvation
and if you're going for 99, rest in holy shield.

This build might not be the best paladin build out there, but it sure is different!
What do you think?

 

[TheKbob]

Dragonscale is a horrbile shield even for this build. HoZ still kicks it in the rear.

~Kbob

 

[wvx_leader_returns]

I dont get it... was that supposed to be some kind of guide or what... Cause if it was it needs 5 hours of work.

-wvx

 

[TheCerberus]

I think it needs work.

 

[BlackWinterDay]

My thoughts:

1) Use Zeal instead of Vengence.

20 Resist Fire
20 Salvation
20 Conviction
10 Holy Shield
4 Zeal
Rest into Sacrifice to max physical

2) Make HoJ in a (superior) phase blade. You will only need 40% more IAS to hit 4 FPA, and the weapon will never break.

3) If you are using Dragonscale you pretty much HAVE to use Guardian Angel if you feel like blocking anything. Dragonscale totally sucks in the chance to block and block speed department, but it works for this build. So yeah, just use a GA and save yourself some headaches

This is a great idea, and I am going to make something just like I described as soon as I am rich enough to afford the HoJ runes. Don't listen to the naysayers

 

[wvx_leader_returns]

He used vengence + fire resist cause fire resist is its fire elemental synergy, so why would you max fire resist on a zealot? Also, dont you dare make a zealot, put 4 points into zeal, and then start pumping sacrifice... Each point into zeal gives you more ar and if you arent going to use fanat [...] then you are sure as hell gonna run into some ar problems. :rant:

-wvx

 

[BlackWinterDay]

He used vengence + fire resist cause fire resist is its fire elemental synergy, so why would you max fire resist on a zealot? Also, dont you dare make a zealot, put 4 points into zeal, and then start pumping sacrifice... Each point into zeal gives you more ar and if you arent going to use fanat [...] then you are sure as hell gonna run into some ar problems. :rant:

-wvx

1) You max fire resist on a zealot because it synergizes the Holy Fire aura granted by HoJ.

2) You do not need much of an AR boost with Conviction, which is the full-time aura for this build.

 

[Zantetsuken]

don't mean to steer the topic away, but since we're talking a single element pally, does conviction remove immunities? I know lower resist doesn't... at least with my wand of lower resist.

Zan

 

[wvx_leader_returns]

1) You max fire resist on a zealot because it synergizes the Holy Fire aura granted by HoJ.

2) You do not need much of an AR boost with Conviction, which is the full-time aura for this build.

1) forgot he was using that

2) I was under the impression that conviction's -defense mod was a lot less than people seemed. Is this only in PvP? Cause I havent used conviction for melee in PvM.

-wvx

 

[Stormshield]

If I were going to make a fire-based paladin build, I'd do it something like this:

20 holy fire
20 vengeance
20 resist fire
20 salvation
rest: holy shield

Using the following gear, for PvM

Shako - Faceted if possible
Dragonscale - Faceted if possible
Ormus - Faceted if possible
BK Ring
Ravenfrost
Dracul's Grasp
Gore Rider
Highlord's Wrath
Heaven's Light - As many +skills/facets as possible
Verdungos - Highest DR/Vita possible.

 

[BlackWinterDay]

2) I was under the impression that conviction's -defense mod was a lot less than people seemed. Is this only in PvP? Cause I havent used conviction for melee in PvM.

-wvx

Yeah, I am pretty sure that's the case. This is definately not a PvP build Also, using Lavagout + 4 FPA Zeal will mean a constant Enchant which also provides an AR bonus. Also also, HoJ = ITD. I realize ITD doesn't work on everything, but.....

 

[Uhgii]

I dont get it... was that supposed to be some kind of guide or what... Cause if it was it needs 5 hours of work.

-wvx

I think it was an idea, and ideas lead to brainstorming and input, which is exactly what this lead to...

 

[KruxDeValor]

it is to me an interesting idea, and atm im trying to level my elemental zealot.
he will use the following.

Griffons(Facet'd)
Highlords
AzureWrath/LightSaber(facet'd)
Up'd Shaft with Ber, Or maybe Ormus Robes with a ber or Facet.
Hoz(facet'd)
Raven Frosts
Wartravs
LavaGouts
and Dungos.
For charms, A Mix of Light Fire And Cold Charms.

The Idea Is to Use Convict and Zeal away, most pallies who i duel have little to no Res Gear. I assume itll work.


what i dont know yet is whether to invest skill points into Fire/Cold/Light Res auras, will they passively add damage to my zeal? or does it work only for Vengeance( dont even know if itll work for that)

 

[Garbad_the_Weak]

Have you considered using trangs belt and gloves? Decent mods and they give you another viable fire attack.

Garbad

 

[Vesio]

If I were going to make a fire-based paladin build, I'd do it something like this:

20 holy fire
20 vengeance
20 resist fire
20 salvation
rest: holy shield

Using the following gear, for PvM

Shako - Faceted if possible
Dragonscale - Faceted if possible
Ormus - Faceted if possible
BK Ring
Ravenfrost
Dracul's Grasp
Gore Rider
Highlord's Wrath
Heaven's Light - As many +skills/facets as possible
Verdungos - Highest DR/Vita possible.

the only thing with using dracs on a vengeance build is that you attack rather slow compared to a zealot. the sheer volume of attacks made possible by zeal makes dracs a good option for gloves but on a vengeance build life tap on dracs doesn't trigger that often, unless you are extremely lucky. Personally if you are going to build a fire pally i would use either lavagouts or hellmouth, but lavagouts first because of the ias fire damage and enchant (which also won't cast very often). Also using rising sun ammy might be kinda fun, and would make you all but invincible to fire attacks. Also as far as i know CB and DS don't work with elemental damage from vengeance (I might be wrong and please correct me if i am), so gore riders might not be the best boot option. I would suggest looking at the infernostrides they offer some decent fire damage. Also don't rule out the good old-fashioned bstar (that is if you go with the 20 in holy fire instead of hoj and conviction.)


krux from what i know and understand putting points into the resist auras will not increase damage to zeal. They will however add damage to anyone of holy fire/freeze/shock with the respsective resist. it does work to use doom or hoj runewords and then adding points to the resists will increase that damage. However the resists are direct synergies to vengeance adding 12% damage per point invested iirc, with salvation adding 2% to each element per point.

 

[Stormshield]

the only thing with using dracs on a vengeance build is that you attack rather slow compared to a zealot. the sheer volume of attacks made possible by zeal makes dracs a good option for gloves but on a vengeance build life tap on dracs doesn't trigger that often, unless you are extremely lucky. Personally if you are going to build a fire pally i would use either lavagouts or hellmouth, but lavagouts first because of the ias fire damage and enchant (which also won't cast very often). Also using rising sun ammy might be kinda fun, and would make you all but invincible to fire attacks. Also as far as i know CB and DS don't work with elemental damage from vengeance (I might be wrong and please correct me if i am), so gore riders might not be the best boot option. I would suggest looking at the infernostrides they offer some decent fire damage. Also don't rule out the good old-fashioned bstar (that is if you go with the 20 in holy fire instead of hoj and conviction.)

Crushing Blow works period. Deadly Strike is just an added bonus from the highlords and gore riders (I chose highlords because of the ias, light res, and +1 skills.) though it does help with your physical damage, which allows you to leach, and keeps you alive.

I went for dracs for the obvious reason, lifetap and open wounds. Of course you brought up the point that it doesn't trigger all that often, but when it does trigger, it helps an enormous amount. Not to mention the life leach, and strength you gain. Your attack rating should be high enough without enchant from lava gouts.

 

[raiderjb]

Whoa

Rofl well all you guys are hypothesising. I am actually building one atm. Have been for the last few days.

As I was hacked NL and am generally playing ladder decided to make 1 last fun char NL. Thx to DD for the tradable goodies.

So what did I look to do! a build around Dragonscale shield, even if it is crap for normal Palas.

Given Dragonscale as a build start point what do we do? We start with the premise of a +10 hydra and 15% fire damage, 211 - 371 fire damage, going on from there.

Well the options are of course endless but, the second prereq was to use gimmers. The stats on gimmers are awsome for this build.

So Skill points

MMMMMMzzz well a pala is the original Mr versatile what I have done is as follows

20 holy fire
20 fire resist
20 Salvvation
20 Zeal

Leaving 20 points at the point that I'm at. I propose last 20 split as follows

10 in conviction and
10 in vengance

Other eq

Well
Highlords or Rising sun
Shako COA maybe Andy's or even Blackhorns
Gimmers
Dragonscale
Upped Shaft, Guardian Angel, Templars, Coh
Dracs, Trang or Mages or Hellmouth
Trang or Dungos or String
Sands or Gores
Bk or Soj or Raven

The 2 Trang items adding fireball would be a mega hoot, Fireball and Hydras. ROFL I can't wait till its finished.

This build would be a hoot in PVP, Casting fully Synergised Hydras in Pubbies outside town will at least give me a good giggle. Which is what I need after losing all 8 uber elite chars to a password hack.

BTWflame all you want ---- This is a fun build and can be done cheap ---ish

Gud Luk

Raider

 

[Div]

p.s. lose the Dragonscale and call him a Pyrodin ^^