Dragon type kicks vs Dragon claw I'm interested to see what's most effective versus monsters (not PvP). It seems that the kicker has most advantages, but it's not obvious. Advantages for kicker: 1) Speed. You can land 6 kicks in 22 frames (about 1 second). 2) No need for claws, which means more versality. Disadvantage for kicker: 1) No Deadly strike. I'm not quite sure about the enhanced damage, but I believe this does not transfer to the kicks either. At least not from weapons. Advantages for c/c assassin: 1) It can deliver double damage (deadly strike and critical strike). Hence, more damage. 2) Clawblock means less dexterity needed for block, and this also blocks elemental damage. 3) Dualwielding claws just looks cooler. Disadvantage to c/c assassin: 1) The IAS breakpoints are very high, which means you pretty much cannot use fade and use BoS, or have a merc with fanatism aura. 1 b) If no fade, one must sacrifice alot of good equipment just because of the need for resistance. 2) Slower attacks means that the c/c assassin does not have as many chances for different modifiers to happen as the kicker has, especially crushing blow. I must go to bed now, but please do fill in more if you can think of any. I believe the kicker is better than the c/c assassin after the points that I have made above. However the c/c assassin does deal more damage thanks to double damage from the skills Deadly Strike and Critical Strike.