Does untwinked = your deads of valor... Hello all, I just just made the switch from softcore non-ladder (where I am uber rich) to hardcore ladder where I have LITERALLY nothing. I am wondering what you druidic masterminds think would make the best/safest new character. I know some may say this belongs in the hc forum but druids require more expertise that most classes imo and I wanted to hear what you guys thought. It occured to me that a summoner would have lots of tanks which might add safety. Can they kill with no + to skills gear? What about if I used oak over wolverine? I am thinking direwolves over grizzly. Any comments? I also thought a werebear would be pretty safe. I have seen many people say "shockwave>pvm". If I am unable to kill stuff because of a pathetic weapon, at least I could stun things to protect my team I read the Dragoon's (excllent) guide, but the part on shockwave was a tad unclear to me. What exactly can be stunned? Ancients- yes/no (I'm guesing no) super uniques- yes/no uniques- yes/no champions- yes/no What about a wind druid. I had one in 1.08 and enjoyed it. The cyclone armor seems like it would help survivability. Again, with no + to skills, could I kill anything? Would I need to get in the monsters face to spam tornados? That sounds like a death waiting to happen. Here is a list of my items (no laughing please!!!): +2 shapeshifting skill circlet spectral shard moonfall (mace type weapon) sigons belt, gloves and shield dual leach (3%) unique gloves gorefoot boots rare circlet with +81 mana, +14 resist all lore helm (someone dropped a sol for me, yay ) ancient's pledge shield (48% resist all) When/if I get up to level 70+ I will start farming nm meph, but untill then I'll have to make do with what I have or find along the way.