Does holy freeze and cannot be frozen affect WW?

Chia

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Does holy freeze and cannot be frozen affect WW?

I'm getting ready to make my first barb and would appreciate any help given. I was wondering, if I don't have "cannot be frozen" on, does it affect ww if I were to be "frozen". To take it further, I was wondering if holy freeze affects ww as well. Basically,is it a bad idea to scatch the idea of using "cannot be frozen" altogether?
 

AdunaCCDanimoth

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Holy Freeze ignores any CBF gear you have. So while you may not freeze from being Ice Blasted, you will still freeze under a Holy Freeze. This freeze is treated like any other freeze, so you do slow down, attack slower, etc, but no amount of CBF can help you.
 

Chia

Diabloii.Net Member
AdunaCCDanimoth said:
Holy Freeze ignores any CBF gear you have. So while you may not freeze from being Ice Blasted, you will still freeze under a Holy Freeze. This freeze is treated like any other freeze, so you do slow down, attack slower, etc, but no amount of CBF can help you.

Sorry for the confusion. What i really need to know. If i don't wear CBF, will my ww attack speed be affected? Scatch holy freeze, I figured that out for myself. I'm just talking about plain cold damage which would normally slow you. I know I will be slowed, but does it affect the speed of my attack? If it doesn't I dont really see a point in wearing a CBF. This is for pk purposes only, by the way.
 

mcm

Banned
Being frozen slows down the speed at which WW travels, but NOT the attack rate. So, being frozen actually helps WW, the only bad thing about it is a slower run/walk speed, but that's not neccessarily a problem if you have teleport and a 10 frame cast.
 

Vakarrona

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mcm said:
Being frozen slows down the speed at which WW travels, but NOT the attack rate. So, being frozen actually helps WW, the only bad thing about it is a slower run/walk speed, but that's not neccessarily a problem if you have teleport and a 10 frame cast.
It seems to act like a slowed missile sorceress casting frozen orb. It help her in some way because in one same cast you can fill the entire screen with ice shards. A WW barbarian will travel slower but still hit at same speed, so every monster at range will get hit much more.
 
HF should slow down WW or else I can't see the point in why PvB smiters would first slow the barb with holy freeze for afterwards shift smiting with fana on??
 

xpumafangx

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lazy when poeple use holy freeze on a barb that too close they are signing they're own death warrent.
 

rikstaker

Diabloii.Net Member
Lets say holy freeze slows down by 50%=>

Barb still attacks at 4 fpa:No incrs/decrs effect on ww attack speed.=>

WW movement speed slowed by 50%=>

Pala stays in barb's ww range for 50% longer=>

50% more hit opportunities=>

If the baba is good(gear),& whirls away & uses hold down whirling, what puma says will happen.

Rik
 
umm I was sure I had read about it in a guide in here somewhere, but I can't find it :-\
well after what I remember the main trick was to first slow the barb with HF, then take fana on, and start shift smiting (all this while the barb is in WW), and it worked great in 1.09 ^^
maybe because the pala also got more hits in, and higher leech with the leech curse?
 

xpumafangx

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umm I was sure I had read about it in a guide in here somewhere, but I can't find it :-\
well after what I remember the main trick was to first slow the barb with HF, then take fana on, and start shift smiting (all this while the barb is in WW), and it worked great in 1.09 ^^
maybe because the pala also got more hits in, and higher leech with the leech curse?
Ya Hi I am from 1.09 and ya that was true then.......

Now we are in 1.10 and wirlwind changed, ALOT.

Read up on it plz.
 

rikstaker

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Check the basics section of my ww guide,I have explained it in detail.Its in the guide sticky thread.

Rik
 

sheepe2004

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Vakarrona said:
It seems to act like a slowed missile sorceress casting frozen orb. It help her in some way because in one same cast you can fill the entire screen with ice shards. A WW barbarian will travel slower but still hit at same speed, so every monster at range will get hit much more.
yes, except slow missile doesnt affect frozen orb at all.
 
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