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Does Defiance aura granted by Exile count as synergy for HS? der=0

Discussion in 'Paladin' started by laban, Mar 26, 2004.

  1. laban

    laban Banned

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    Does Defiance aura granted by Exile count as synergy for HS?

    I am fairly sure that it does not work that way, but I might be wrong and that there is a bonus like the one granted by the charges from marrowwalks.

    Anyone care to clear this out?

    Regards
    laban
     
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    assmuffin IncGamers Member

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    I'm pretty sure the only reason Marrowwalks do synergize because they are charges. Unlike Exile which is not charges, it is just automatic.
     
  3. laban

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    That was also my thoughts, untill someone told he wouldn't invest any points in Defiance as he was wearing an Exile shield. Then I wondered why, and thought of the bug with marrowwalks.
     
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    Loboleal IncGamers Member

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    Defiance on Exile has the same effect on you than if another Pally provides you Defiance aura.
     
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    i heard marrowwalks is bugged...
     
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    yup. theyre bugged.
     
  7. assmuffin

    assmuffin IncGamers Member

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    Aren't all Charges bugged to synergize? Just like the Poison Creeper charges on Carrion Wind synergize to Rabies for a Druid.
     
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    only if the person doesn't put a point into the skill with the charges

    ie:rabies ww druid using carrion wind cannot get carrion vine or solar creeper because then they have to put a point into poison creeper and lose the the charges synergy bug
     
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    I think charges/aura when equipt/chance to cast(bonehew) and some others all have the same effect on the bug, i.e. give you synergy if you have no point in the said skill.
     
  10. laban

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    What do you build that conclusion on?

    Guys, I have my own theories about these and I didn't post this to get your 'opinion' on the matter. I posted this question to get a clear precise answer, preferably in the form of a simple 'Yes' or 'No'.

    All I have gotten are vague explanations or peoples own mere thoughts on how they think it works. Frankly, that's interesting and all, but that just doens't answer my question.

    Don't mean to sound rude, I'm just dissapointed I guess.

    Regards
    laban
     
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    skills granted from items have no effect on synergies.

    i.e. if you have defiance aura from exile shield, that will not act as a synergy for holy shield, or any other skill. only points actual put into the skill will act as a synergy.

    i hope that clears it up, laban. :)

    edit: the marrowwalk bug - the charges from marrowwalk only act as a synergy only if you don't put any points into the skill. (bone prison, is it?). this is a bug. i don't think this bug exists with any other item.

    i may be wrong but i think the charges of molten boulder on stone have some synergy bug effect on druids too. not sure if that's true. just a rumor.
     
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    @Icarus: Thanks! :clap:
     
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    memememe173 IncGamers Member

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    Exile will not boost HS in any way, shape or form
     
  14. nSin

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    You're wrong, it works with carrion wind ring and metal grid too

    And blizzard knew about this "bug" for a long time


    http://www.blizzard.com/support/?id=mdt0763p

    maybe they intended it this way?
     
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    this bug exists on all charged items. it is a side effect of the intent--charges get synergy bonus from the skills you have. The intent is in changes.txt (i think) but the bug is not documented.
     
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    That quote says that Charged items receive synergies. In other words, An item with Poison Dagger charges will get synergies from Poison Explosion and Poison Nova. But that quote don't say anything about charged items providing synergies. That is very different.
     
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    I remember read a post about this from someone who read the game code.
     
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    im a pvp zealot with max fanat/zeal/sacrifice/HS. although im using exile which grants me lvl 15 defiance, would it be suitable to then max defiance using skillpoints? or would this just cancel out the defense bonus from the shield? ie. do skill points into defiance and the bonus from the shield stack?

    if they dont stack, then wouldnt it be better to max defiance as that acts as a synergy for HS and therefore i would be getting a lot more defense, than putting no skillpoints in defiance and just leaving it to my exile?

    which is the better route to go for higher defense?
     
  19. Loboleal

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    Defiance in Exile won't provide you synergy to HS, so the best way for maxxing defense is 20 in HS and 20 in Defiance. Your Exile will grant you Defiance aura providing you an additional 210% ED.
     
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    ah ok thanks, i think i can now hit the 33k def mark.
     

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