Does a PvP Smiter need Max Block?

RoseOfSharyn

RoseOfSharyn

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Does a PvP Smiter need Max Block?

I'm just asking for peoples opinion if PvP Smiters even need 75% Max Block? When it can all go to Vitality. I'm thinking of doing max block because I would rather have it and lose 100 some life...

what you all think?
 
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japazo

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since 75% of your duels will be melee, Id say yes. No reason to skip out on it and get owned by WW Barbs :undecided:
 
mainaman

mainaman

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unless you have max block even bming a bvc wll not help.
ou need block for zons/druid/zealer/barb/chargers/ww sins/kickers...
as you see alot of oponents
 
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akumaxxyz

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not talking about pub barbs, you can freeze and use clegs, it only takes like a few smites to trigger amp, lacerator got like 33% if i remember
 
Camden

Camden

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Lacerator is a bad idea for a smiter. Those smites hoping to cast amp are wasted. If anything put a gavel of pain on switch.

But even still the barb can bm you back, which would render your bm attempts to compsensate lack of block entirely futile. No matter what you do a barb will demolish a smiter without block.
 
TarnishedHope

TarnishedHope

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Any PvP characters, save C/Csins, that's sporting a shield and doesn't not go for max block will, unfortunately, be easy meat for most BvC.

So yes, you want max block.
 
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akumaxxyz

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the bad part about gavel is the 3 charges, otherwise it be the ultimate bm anti barb gear.

a 100% anti barb smiter won't get hit much, once amp hits barb is dead, there isnt much it can do but to tele away and use tele clip ww
 
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SicHalo

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akumaxxyz said:
the bad part about gavel is the 3 charges, otherwise it be the ultimate bm anti barb gear.

a 100% anti barb smiter won't get hit much, once amp hits barb is dead, there isnt much it can do but to tele away and use tele clip ww
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lol u serious! i question ur opponments to be nothing more than beginners...

firstly a anti barb smiter is dependent on lifetap triggering which will override amp anyway.

Secondly fade from treachery anyone?

or what if the barb then casts lifetap or amp?

which brings u back to square one, what ever one can do the other can use to counter it.

And yes max block is needed vs any mele or u will find alot of mele based chars tearing u to shreds.. Also for a paladin it should not require a huge amount of dex due to holy shield and high block pala shields



 
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Ouallada

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If you really have such a great dilemma, go for a setup which is non-max-block against non ar-based chars and which is max block against melee chars. With a pb, you will already be close to max block even with exile, so a couple of switches will give you the dext needed for max block. Perhaps shadow dancers, WWs, rare ring etc can be swapped in and out if it really is such an issue.
 
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akumaxxyz

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SicHalo said:
lol u serious! i question ur opponments to be nothing more than beginners...

firstly a anti barb smiter is dependent on lifetap triggering which will override amp anyway.

Secondly fade from treachery anyone?

or what if the barb then casts lifetap or amp?

which brings u back to square one, what ever one can do the other can use to counter it.

And yes max block is needed vs any mele or u will find alot of mele based chars tearing u to shreds.. Also for a paladin it should not require a huge amount of dex due to holy shield and high block pala shields
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you dont get it... the version of the anti barb smiter was suppose to have defense like 60k someone posted long go, it rarely gets hit, and you do need some dex for max block with shields like exile.

you use fade,pala uses clease so ?, and curses still last a bit even with fade on, smite kills fast when your being amp,



 
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Ce Olba

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akumaxxyz said:
you use fade,pala uses clease so ?, and curses still last a bit even with fade on, smite kills fast when your being amp,
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And if you ever bother with amp, you lose bo or grief, both which make you quite a bit inferior to a BvC. So, which is it? Less life or much less damage for your amp?

Or do you plan to use Atma's Scarab and depend on the 5% CtC?

Also, Gavel of Pain has a lvl 8 Amplify Damage, the lvl 15 Fade of Treachery makes that last for 6.09 seconds. And I think that's quite a nice trade-off for the fact that you lose half of your life for a total of 18.27 seconds of -50% PDR. Not to mention that it would be quite easy for the barbarian to use Life Tap.

Also, don't even bother saying that Cleansing is equal to Fade. Firstly, the difference between 1 pt cleansing and fade is 7% in duration. The other factor is that the BvC loses nothing because of the Fade, whereas your paladin loses his damage-giving aura, Fanatiscm. So, unless you plan to charge around until it wears off like a sissy, you are in quite a lot of trouble. Oh, and the lvl 3 Life Tap of a LT wand would last for 5.824 seconds if you had a 1 pt cleansing.



 
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akumaxxyz

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Ce Olba said:
And if you ever bother with amp, you lose bo or grief, both which make you quite a bit inferior to a BvC. So, which is it? Less life or much less damage for your amp?

Or do you plan to use Atma's Scarab and depend on the 5% CtC?

Also, Gavel of Pain has a lvl 8 Amplify Damage, the lvl 15 Fade of Treachery makes that last for 6.09 seconds. And I think that's quite a nice trade-off for the fact that you lose half of your life for a total of 18.27 seconds of -50% PDR. Not to mention that it would be quite easy for the barbarian to use Life Tap.

Also, don't even bother saying that Cleansing is equal to Fade. Firstly, the difference between 1 pt cleansing and fade is 7% in duration. The other factor is that the BvC loses nothing because of the Fade, whereas your paladin loses his damage-giving aura, Fanatiscm. So, unless you plan to charge around until it wears off like a sissy, you are in quite a lot of trouble. Oh, and the lvl 3 Life Tap of a LT wand would last for 5.824 seconds if you had a 1 pt cleansing.
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all your theory craft doesnt mean it works in practice, most pvpers can have a 3 minute bo and duels dont last that long when its bvc vs smiter. your life tap wont work unless you can hit the paladin every single time, where else if paladin amps you, freeze + tele smite = you dead. plus you wont hit him much because of the high defense

you can mindlessly random short ww and waste mana where smite cost 2 mana and just need a single good freeze + tele smite to kill you



 
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