Do you trust Blizzard to make the Diablo 4 we want?

Ultimatium

Diabloii.Net Member
So im not sure about you guys, but i personally have my doubts about this game. It seems to me, that some of the people working on diablo 4 right now didn't play the previous diablo games as much as us. It also seems like they still haven't got things like the loot system and the itemization right. It does seem like they have taken some of the criticism to heart though, such as the game being too bright and colorful, which is a step in the right direction. It bugs me a bit though, that the game still looks a lot like diablo 3. So im personally a bit sceptical about this game, but what about you guys?
 
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In the name of Zod

Diabloii.Net Member
Sounds about right Ultimatium. Do you think they deliberately leaked things like "Blizzard management considered D3 a failure" and "possible D2 remake in the works" just to pull us in? Call me slow but I just realised this today. The timing was just too uncanny. That said, when I first saw the demo for D4 I felt like it was D3 with D2 labels. They even brought back the legendary gems and called them runes, well once they add the progression system to them they will be anyhow. I've read posts on other forums where people said they felt insulted by how Blizzard was trying to pull the wool over their eyes in this manner. I totally understood what they meant.

From the demo's I saw and the people playing them there didn't seem to be the same buzz going on that I vaguely recall there being when D3 demo's where released. In fact, the floor looked almost vacant. Next Blizzcon will be very interesting.
 

Wirt

Diabloii.Net Member
I am more optimistic. I would say Blizzard genuinely wants to take from D2 what made it so good and are open for feedback.

Then again, with a new generation of designers grown up with WoW and D3 we might get
- too much emphasis on the open shared world and world events (WoW / MMO),
- we get to kill 25 monsters per sec in flashes of lights (D3) and
- oversimplification like items upgrades simplified to ‘green arrow up = better’ and death and respecs are free of consequences (Blizzards catering to all complaints)
then you might end up being right...
 

Apocalypse

Diabloii.Net Member
the diablo "we" want will vary greatly from person to person. so the simple answer is no as no matter what direction they go many people will not be happy about it. personally i love what i saw last week and am excited to see where it goes from here. so yeah i have confidence in them
 

mrpinsky

Diabloii.Net Member
I don't trust them to deliver, tbh. D4 certainly looks much more like we would expect a modern Diablo to look, but it doesn't feel like Diablo. Something about the atmosphere, the still cartoony character movement and rag-doll effects. Then the MMO stuff with world bosses. The surface world not being randomized (only dungeons). And of course the fact that what we have seen of the itemization and character building so far is disappointing.
I wouldn't write it off yet but so far I'm not very optimistic.
 
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sbn

Diabloii.Net Member
No, I don't trust that they they will make the game I want, I can only hope they make a game I might enjoy. My problem with D3 was that I wanted a sequel or successor to D2 and got something entirely different. Is this game going to truly go back to what made D2 so enjoyable? I can not comment on their MMO features, but I agree with mrpinsky in that the itemization and character building is disappointing from what is known. I always felt D3 was a ARPG for people that just wanted the APG minus the R.

Only reason I did not ditch D3 and go back to D2 was that my characters/accounts expired, and I lost everything. That Blizzard actually had such an idiotic account expiring policy just furthers my distrust and dislike towards the company. D3 only solidified my feelings, so no, if I do get a game I actually like it will be pure luck.
 

WitchDoctor

DiabloWiki.Net Ink Slinger
'we' are no cohesive group, but I would say... some nods to the old d2 crowd, a small nod to the d1 base (where I more firmly linger as far as desired design direction of the series), far more nods to a 'modernized' online diablo experience where they make a Diablo 3.5 that compromises in design between what 3 ultimately did and what older fans want to aim towards.

For the purposes of the overall community... more than what 3 gave. For this community, I imagine better, but still missing the mark. For my own purposes, I am mixed, and can't really judge as atmosphere is a critical component to me. That said, as noted in this thread, there are a few aspects that make me weary, even as the lore aspect leaves me intrigued. If nothing else, I imagine the story will be less of an insult to intelligence.
 

Dacar92

Moderator: Community, D2 Zon, DH, Inc Clan Officer
I have been traveling abroad since right after Blizzcon and haven't had time to look at the game play videos. I could be doing it now rather than typing this, but part of my wants to remain ignorant and wait for the game. I know I won't be able to but reading the comments of those who have watched makes me leery. I want to be optimistic. There's a long time until release so I'll be patient and give them the benefit of the doubt.
 

Enkeria

Diabloii.Net Member
I do not trust AAA at all. Its up for them to prove it.

And I don't like microtransactions, so in a perfect world, for trust, is to wait 1+ year post launch to get a game knowing the game is good. But who wants that if you are a into the actual story and might be a fan?

I am sceptical too. Some things just needs to be announced and proved before I can feel its a buy for me.
 

Ultimatium

Diabloii.Net Member
So with the warcraft 3 reforged disaster, i have very little hope for this game. I realize that we're talking about two different games, but it's still the same company who made them. They failed us with diablo 3, they failed us with diablo immortal and they failed us with warcraft 3 reforged. I think they will be failing us with diablo 4 as well. Sorry for being pessimistic, but i simply don't think they have the creativity, talent or interest in making the diablo 4 that a lot of us wants.
 
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In the name of Zod

Diabloii.Net Member
So with the warcraft 3 reforged disaster, i have very little hope for this game. I realize that we're talking about two different games, but it's still the same company. They failed us with diablo 3, they failed us with diablo immortal and they failed us with warcraft 3 reforged. I think they are going to fail us with diablo 4 as well. Sorry for being pessimistic, but i simply don't think they have the creativity, talent or interest in making the diablo 4 that a lot of us wants.
Again, you've pretty much said exactly what I'm thinking. The problem with getting big is that internal creative talents start to look smaller and smaller. When Blizzard merged with Activision it only exacerbated this issue.
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At the last Blizzcon there was nothing to let anyone know that Diablo 4 was something worth waiting for. A cinematic isn't gameplay and what gameplay they did show played just like D3. A game they admit was a failure.
 

In the name of Zod

Diabloii.Net Member
I'm smelling 'last chance' territory with D4.
Well yeah, but if POE 2 ends up standing head and shoulders above D4 then it may never get out the door. Blizzard like their products to have that premium feel. At some point they're going to have to work out the financial situation of continuing work on it and figuring how much it will bring in. When D3 came out it did not have to contend with the likes of POE, today it is a very different story. D4 is fast starting to look like the penultimate arpg experience since Blizzard admitted it would not have the same glorious budget as its predecessor.

Since Blizzard also spread their talents out among numerous different ip's they will not be able to match GGG's specialization of just working on one title tirelessly. Eventually, this difference in strategy will become obvious to everyone.
 

Ultimatium

Diabloii.Net Member
Well i have to say im not a big fan of path of exile, i always thought it was a bit overhyped and that it didn't really have the same magic as diablo 2. But it's a free to play game with arguably better content than diablo 3. It's hard for blizzard to beat something like that, unless they come up with something really special. Sadly, i think blizzard has lost the ability to make a premium diablo game.
 
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