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Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by BobCox2, Feb 21, 2015.

  1. BobCox2

    BobCox2 IncGamers Member

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    Wipe it and reinstall, change all passwords and file for the forthcoming class action lawsuit.

    FYI:


    The various news reports
    of this catastrophe don’t quite convey the sheer horror and disbelief with which any technically minded person is now reacting to Lenovo’s screw-up. Security researcher Marc Rogers wrote that it’s “quite possibly the single worst thing I have seen a manufacturer do to its customer base. … I cannot overstate how evil this is.” He’s right. The Lenovo Superfish security hole is really, really bad.


    To recap: Since at least September, Lenovo has been shipping OEM Windows laptops preloaded with Superfish “adware,” which would rudely inject its own shopping results into your browser when you searched on Google, Amazon, and other websites. This sort of behavior is associated more with spyware than with factory-shipped operating-system installs, and by itself would be a new low for Lenovo. But Superfish is more than just pesky. It’s the most virulent, evil adware you could find.

    a single self-signed rootcertificate (trust me: That’s really bad) across all of Lenovo’s affected machines, Superfish intentionally pokes a gigantic hole into your browser security and allows anyone on your Wi-Fi network to hijack your browser silently and collect your bank credentials, passwords, and anything else you might conceivably type there. As Errata Security’s Robert Graham put it, “I can intercept the encrypted communications of SuperFish’s victims (people with Lenovo laptops) while hanging out near them at a cafe wifi hotspot.” If you have a Lenovo laptop that has Superfish on it (try Filippo Valsorda’s Superfish test to see), I would advise nothing short of wiping the entire machine and installing vanilla Windows—not Lenovo’s Windows. Then change all of your passwords.

    So ghastly a perversion is Superfish’ self-signed root certificate that many of us have practically been walking around with our jaws on the floor since the news broke Wednesday night. My Facebook wall is filled with outraged profanity from software engineers. Installing Superfish is one of the most irresponsible mistakes an established tech company has ever made. Reckless, careless, and appalling don’t even come close to covering it.


    This is My PSA of the Month People.
     
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    TheNix IncGamers Member

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    We have a new Lenovo laptop and I killed superfish last night. Luckily we have only used it a couple off times and only for my wife to watch youtube vids when she's too ill to move. No passwords were ever but on the machine, so nothing was put at risk.
     
  3. jmervyn

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    Heh heh heh, those crazy ChiComs!

    If it makes you feel any better, the vast numbers of Lenovo machines purchased by the U.S. Gov't with your tax dollars have a clean Windows image installed.

    Probably.
     
  4. BobCox2

    BobCox2 IncGamers Member

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    Love My old thinkpad but after IBM sold it...

    Lawsuit info here -


    Although, the Company claims that they have stopped preloading Superfish, but many systems sold in the month of January are still affected. Lenovo has also released a SuperFish Removal Tool that can automatically uninstall the malware for its laptops and computers.

    Hattis Law, the California law firm is investigating the issue and the security researchers at the firm today identified that the adware coming pre installed with Lenovo machines is highly dangerous and hijacks the encrypted browsing sessions and would allow the hackers to bypass the system’s web encryption.


    Hattis Law further reported that,

    “Superfish can enable the man-in-the-middle attacks whereby attackers can easily certify imposter HTTPS websites that masquerade as Bank of America, Google, Amazon.com or any other secure destination on the Internet.”

    Hattis Law firm is known to work to protect consumers from the deceptive business practices of large corporations. This is not the first time when Lenovo has been caught under such lawsuit, Hattis previously alleged false advertising for the company.

    If you are a U.S. consumer who purchased a Lenovo laptop or desktop after September 2014, you may have a claim. We would like to hear from you, says Hattis Law.
     
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  5. LozHinge the Unhinged

    LozHinge the Unhinged IncGamers Member

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    I knew that Lenovo laptops were evil back in mid-2013. A touchpad that is randomly operated by the keyboard? WTF?

    POS laptop, I hope all the Lenovo policy decision makers get Herod's disease.

    ps Post re-edited to place all the words in the order I intended. POS laptop.
     
  6. jmervyn

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    The touchpad on the latest one (we have) still seems quite tetchy. While running through the install process, some of them seem to invoke sound effects like when you hear a radio 'break squelch'. Also sensitive as all-get-out; you don't even need to actually touch the pad in order for it to sense something and shoot the mouse off focus or zero out a field you were typing in.
     
  7. BobCox2

    BobCox2 IncGamers Member

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    In other news of how we have no privacy.

    AT&T is charging customers an extra $29 a month if they want to opt out of the company’s “Internet Preferences” program, which tracks “the webpages you visit, the time you spend on each, the links or ads you see and follow, and the search terms you enter.”(businessinsider.com)

    And what are the chances that opting out will actually make them stop?

    0%

    "AT&T may collect and use web browsing information for other purposes, as described in our Privacy Policy, even if you do not participate in the Internet Preferences program."
    Opting out just mean you don't get targeted ad's based on it.
     
  8. Glurin

    Glurin IncGamers Member

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    I was warned against Lenovo years ago by someone I trust and this would count as just the tip of the iceberg as to why. You're better off switching computer brands entirely rather than trying to fix your Lenovo, because you can't.

    @jmervyn
    I was about to ask why the **** a supposedly secure government facility would be using computers from China at all, but then I remembered that even common sense is an alien concept to the people we put in charge of these kind of things.
     
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    We're only secure when it can inconvenience a user.
    We only write policy when we don't have to take responsibility.
    Our common sense is unrivaled - it's the grotesque stupidity and bureaucratic inertia that causes all the difficulty.


    Seriously, since you're not one of the Trotsky lovin' types here, you ought to watch "Yes, Minister" and "Yes, Prime Minister" to get an idea just what a horrorshow the Gubmint really is.




    EDIT "Office Space" doesn't really highlight just how effective Gubmint always is, but Brazil comes in a close second...

     
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    Glurin IncGamers Member

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    And speaking of effective gubmint, how excited are you now that they've officially got their claws into the internet?

    How about a scale from one to ten. One being "OMG this is so awesome!" and ten being "I think my brain just exploded the windows I'm so excited!"

    It's just so wonderful now that we've finally got our completely altruistic political leaders protecting the internet from all those evil, greedy people who want nothing more than to censor and control it for their own personal gain.
     
  11. LozHinge the Unhinged

    LozHinge the Unhinged IncGamers Member

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    Evil greedy people whom we vote for are protecting the Interwerbz from evil, greedy people we don't vote for. I'd say that is a win for ... the guys who usually win this kind of shit.

    Hey ho.
     
  12. jmervyn

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    Glurin, I'm sure you'll love this fanboy's take on it, even if you're not old enough to remember "Ma Bell". SQUEEEE!!!

    The comments are a little more level-headed, though they unfortunately tend to the "OMG FASCISM" pole.

    ********************************

    Loz, you're so jaded and cynical. You're almost (but certainly not quite) sounding as enlightened as I am.

    Your fundamental ignorance is typical of socialists, which you have become after living in a socialist nation in a socialist area of the world for so long. You implicitly trust your betters like me because you've been conditioned to - so you therefore have no grounds to complain when we contradict our earlier lies and abuse you mercilessly. Oh, but that's right, Thatcher!! {Rhubarb rhubarb rhubarb}


    The principle of capitalism is that money IS a vote - or an award if you prefer - so in a capitalist system you would indeed be voting for your preferred series of tubes. In reality this removed the capability of making the decision from those "voters", for reasons which were not patent, and delivered it to the hands of un-elected unaccountable bureaucrats like me.

    So don't feed me any more tripe about you being conservative, libertarian, or even remotely sane. MAGGIE THATCHER MILK SNATCHER!!

    I needn't rub your face in your own laughable stupidity for assuming above that we're actually electing anyone when we vote, as IIRC you've already shredded that particular claim yourself in a previous thread.
     
  13. LozHinge the Unhinged

    LozHinge the Unhinged IncGamers Member

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    Hi Merv! How are the new meds working? I suspect they'll cut in any second now but in the meantime, I'll entertain your cheerful lunacy.

    :cool:

    Right, parsing my way through the bruised ego, wound-licking and aggrieved sense of having been denied, let's see what you've been trying to say ...

    First of all, I can respect a milk snatcher. It's someone who can and will strike hard at a helpless enemy, aged seven or younger preferably. What's not to like?! What I cannot forgive is hairstyle crime - there's a line and certain treacherous enemies of their own nation/war criminals have crossed that in the past.

    By the way, Merv .... what kind of hairstyle are you sporting these days? :suspicious:

    Anyhoot (and you are definitely that!), the principle of capitalism is that there IS NO vote - it's smoke and mirrors to ensure the business of doing business is uninterrupted. For all you infantile "cynicism", Merv, you still fail to see that the status quo is the gubmint, until the wheels falls off. Your so-called "enlightenment" is a filament short of a light bulb.
    The status quo is of course bureaucracy in a theatre-show conflict with monied vested interests. Every step is a careful one, to ensure that no matter how much things appear to change, they always remain exactly the same. The drones, I mean, the voters,get their heroes and villains to cheer for and jeer at, and everyone is happy (or at least, outraged with outrageous outrage).

    :rolleyes:

    Look, we've covered all this before.
    If you're bored, find yourself a hobby that won't land you in jail and then work on some new material. Certain kinds of comedy rely upon repetition and cumulative-effect to work and they can work very well - e.g. The Fast Show - but in the case of pseudo-political, peanut gallery ranting, you just come off like my ex-girlfriend's Yorkshire Terrier.
    This is not a good look for a dog, let alone a low-functioning lunabot on the Interwerbz like yourself.

    Now - do we need to visit the woodshed, Merv, or are you going to be a good argue-bot?
     
  14. jmervyn

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    A standard "I'm quite straight" cut that I'd like to resemble Romney's but inevitably turns into Hugh Jackman's Wolverine. I had to cut it despite the cold; damn stuff grows like creeping communism. At least I'll never be bald.
    That's a blatant lie and I pity you deeply for the disease in your soul. I'm certainly not saying that the current American landscape in any way resembles capitalism - just that it used to be far more like it.

    Voting IS doing business - analogous to getting butt-fecked every time you buy a computer running Microsoft products.

    How does that camel you're swallowing taste? I can strain the gnats myself, thanks.

    The day you EVER manage to take me to the woodshed, I'll admit it. Don't mistake the sound of the peanut gallery applause here for truth, lest you become a self-important deluded cretin like Jon Stewart.

    I know you were fully aware that I was referring to you amongst the others when you responded to the politics thread. I also expect you imagine my being oblivious to unintentional irony on my part. Thing is, if there was any evidence against my views I'd entertain it (and generally do), while you have proven completely unwilling to alter yours.

    Rather than continue to distract from the very real issue of the Chinese gub'mint rogering Lenovo users, this can be continued in the politics thread if you're bored. Me, I have work to do.
     
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    Should I ask Elly to give us a child forum for politics? It might help address several problems OTF has been having over the last year or two.
     
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    I think we all know what the problem is, and that doing that wouldn't solve anything ;)
     
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    It's almost as if politics has gone and jammed its appendages into every aspect of life! And it was all so sudden!
     
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