DII CLASSIC sorc (MF mainly)

[leihotikan]

DII CLASSIC sorc (MF mainly)

So I am making classic sorc, main purpose is MF (andy NM/Hell, sojs etc bla bla) Anyway, I dont really remember which skills can be that useful in classic (last time I played in d2C almost 2 years ago). Orb will be main killing power, but what would you reccomend next? Maybe Firewall (but I never liked firewall, hmm) Maybe Fireball, but then I won't have too many points to boost synergies. Mind also that it is classic, I won't have lvl 90+ in 2 days, I will not have runewords, charms, massive +mana items, etc, and good +skill lvl will be 5 or 6 (maybe). I would appreciate advice from ppl playing classic hardcore, thank you.

 

[TheCerberus]

NM Andy will not be dropping you SoJs, however NM Meph and Hell Andy are prone to dropping them. Your main killer for boss runs will be static. Get at least 1 point in that, it has no restrictions so it is a very good skill to quickly weaken down bosses. Orb is good to finish them off, but really Fireball or Blizzard wil work fine as well. Teleport is a bit of a mana hog without BO, so you can dump a few points in there to help your mana issues.

A build I'd try would be FO/TK with the rest distributed into Ice Bolt, Teleport, Energy Shield, and Cold Mastery as you see fit. Stinger said he had good success with a Blizzard build, hopefully he'll post it for you.

Gear I'd use would be Ward, Gskin, Mahim Oak, Shard for teleporting to your target. You reach 63 fcr this way which is the breakpoint if I'm not mistaken. Once reaching a boss I'd switch shard for gull, magefist for chance guards. Tarn, nagels, and goldwrap add some more MF. I'd recommend just running Nm Andy first. NM Andy will drop almost all of your needed items, although Gskin might be pushing it. Once you get the bulk of your items try Hell Andy. If you get Andy bug you won't need any MF and you'll get good drops, MF will just boost it even more.

 

[STINGER]

My Classic Sorc works very well MFin and kills adequately in big games and can tele CS once I get her better Armor.

Max Blizz
Max Mastery or 100% the 100% works very well since static works so well
Static 1
Telek 16
Teleport is currently 16 and I will max it
1 Shiver

At the end i will probably boost more damage, she is 76 and can run Meph and Andy easily with 96 D Armor!!!

Shard is the main item of all, rares can take care of the rest. i run with very little MF but i do have an MF helm I swap for my Saphire Helm at the boss.

She is base Energy which is not easy to do in Classic thus the Spah Helm.

Currently she has this as i recall:

3 Diamond Gothic
3 Saph Death mask
Some very nice Ringmail (2) 30+ rez and 50+ life and FHR damn shame it cant be upped in Classic
Nightsmoke
Rare Boots, (3) rez 20+ Gambled and 24 MF no FRW, hell she teleport so who cares
Shard
FCR Rings
+1 ammy with mana and rez
Frosties......this is a big one for a base Energy build.

Normally i swap out for Angelics 3 pcs for MF but also used Trangs Armor/ammy for a while.

Remember, Shards arent all that easy to find in Classic, your best first option is a Wand, many wands can be flat out insainly uber with like (3) 20+ rez Mana and up to 20 FCR. Makes it tuff to hit 63% but its a good start nonetheless.

Orb works just fine, I just prefer Blizz mainly because I can mote trick Meph and I can also do Council runs with them trapped inside the building and have nothing but Hydras to deal with.


Most Classic sorcs tend to invest highly in Energy and make up for it with Life gear and it works also. I just like haveint that 850-900 base life instead of having 6-700 mana i deal with a 400 ish mana and drink a lot of pots early. if you elect to pump up teleport as I did eventually you wont have to drink hardly at all, it is just a bit painfull pot wise getting to that point but i think you would find yourself with a much stronger sorc if you can do this.


When I teley CS I swap out gear a bit, go with a Grim Helm with rez and an Armor with much higher D. i also have a nice Blue ammy with +1 and like 30 life that i use. It has been a while but I think i exceed 2k life substatially with good BO wiht my CS gear.


This teleport loaded sorc can just non-stop go go go with and without BO, and if man burners hit you, you quickly recover more than enuff mana to teleport out. Tele at lvl 1 is 25 mana, at 20 or so I beleive it is 5 mana thus allowing you to get out of things easier IMO. the Nightsmoke with DTM (damage to Mana) also helps big here.


Basic tactic is to get in Mephs fasce, Blizz/Static and tank him, or if your rez is low and u elect a range spell then moat him.

 

[TheCerberus]

Those are pretty much the ideal boots for classic ladder, nice gamble. :thumbsup:

 

[leihotikan]

yeah thx for tips! (forum was dead for me whole day, srry)

Anyway how come will Andy NOT drop sojs in NM when I found many of them (in LOD)? Does classic drop rate of sojs differ or what?

Other thing: Stinger, u use ES or no? If no so why you pump up telekinesis? I know it has something with mana less costs but can you exactly expain what is the issue with it? And do you max Blizzard and CM only and leave synergies at 1 point? How come can you kill monsters in hell then..

I am sorry for being noobish here but last character in classic I played was cow necro about 1,5 year ago :lol: (still trying to recognize which item is good and which is not hehe)

 

[TheCerberus]

NM Andy has a different mlvl than LoD NM Andy, like 37 when 39 is needed to drop SoJ. Normal Diablo (40) and NM Meph however are very good at dropping SoJs. I know someone who ran NM Meph a lot in Classic and got 23 SoJs in one month. I doubt he uses a bot either.

 

[leihotikan]

Well, thats good to know... I was running LOD andy NM and sojs were dropping like crazy. Ok, so I ll head up to Meff and others then, thx

 

[exdeath]

My MF sorc (lvl 70)
20 orb
20 ice mastery
16 ice bolt (i max it when lvl up)
10 static
1 energy shield
1tele
1warmth
1shiver armor

with
60str
51dex
vita rest
energy base

using
shard
30/20 gothic shiel with 20 prisma
3sock mask with 3 topaz
life resist armor
sorc skill life resist ammy
2 nagels
nightsmoke
frostburn
some good resist mf boots

running hell andy in 8ppl games and doing good

 

[ElPatron]

Had a high level sorc on uswest hardcore classic last season. She could tele cs no bo, run hell meph/hell andy no problem...etc etc

Gear(IIRC):
10 fhr 44 life trip resist 20+ fire/light/posion light plate
10 fhr 38 life 30 fire res 20 light res grim helm(damn sexy look too :thumbsup: )
Shard
3 pdia tower
10 fcr 51 life 30 fire res 20 cold res ammy(no skills but i needed the fcr for the 63% bp, and +1 skills aren't worth taking away the life/res)
1 soj
10 fcr 50+mana 19 cr ring
frosties
17 fhr 31 life 20+ cr 20+ fr belt
10 f r/w 30+ fire/light res and 10+ pois res boots

Skills:
20 orb
20 mastery
20 static
10 teleport
10 or so warmth
16 telek

Was pumping into warmth as I slowly leveled.

Stats:
80 str(for gskin even though i never used one)
51 dex(shard)
Rest here, was around 400~
Base energy

She was quite the sorc...died to a lag spike doing a hell andy run...ah well.

 

[STINGER]

Sorry, she had ES, I also added a few points so that it would be 50% with a +2 ammy

 

[STINGER]

Grr.......Also, in Classic Static takes monster down to nothing lik ein 1.09. Monsters in Classic are lower life also.

I never claimed my build to be a "killer" she just was able to kill and chill for others to kill if they wer faster like hammers.

But solo I could kill any boss just as fast as any fully synergiezed sorc.

 

[Akse]

only crappy thing about static is vs venom lords who now have very high lightning resist but then u just need high dmg orb or blizz and good mastery.

I've always made my sorcs with the old way having skills like:
20 orbb
20 static
20 warmth
10+ cold mastery
~9 eshield
and other points now into ice bolt

i also have been investing a lot of points into energy.. i like to have ~1000 mana with some sorcs without soj or frostburns. Then my life have been like 500 - 600. Maybe a little risky but then u just need to hope for no big lags. As long as i have no lags i can avoid getting hit badly..

 

[JDM.]

My Useast classic sorc is lvl 80

Max Blizz
Max Glacial
Max Ice Blast
15 Ice Bolt
Around 10 in Cold Mastery

1 in tele
1 in tk
1 in es
1 in frozen Armor

I mainly use her for mf hell mephy..but every other day or so..I do full hell cs clears with two friends(Java and Necro)..with around 800 life w/out bo she hardly ever goes below 600 in these cs runs. I have another sorc in the build and am going for similar build but adding more to static and going to get atleast 16 in tk.

My gear is
Shard
Garb
3 Ptopaz Helm
3 Sock P Dimond Tower
20 res All Blue ammy
2x blue mf rings
Rare boots with mods
Rare belt with mods
Chance Guards

Its around 15x MF...Basically find everything with this doing hell mephy runs


Stats are
75 str
51 dex
3xx vita
base mana

 

[leihotikan]

well, one thing bothers me in classic now

i got 63 lvl pally avenger,maxed all resis (90 passive fire and lightning, rest around 75), over 2000 life after BO (~1000 without) and when I got hit in NM (!!) CS run I purely suck... my life goes down too fast , even with maxed block and full resis, hmm. Strange, in LOD with maxed block I do block, here it seems it block a lot less although I have 75 % listed. Maybe its slow block rate or low lvl HS now, strange.

still figuring what is what in classic now
thx for tips again

 

[TheCerberus]

1 point Holy Shield should still be a 2 frame block, I'm not sure what the problem is. I do now when I made my tank, lvl 87, 1350 life (3k with BO), 8k def (11k with Shout) and max block he hardly ever got hurt, and only because of IM.

 

[STINGER]

I dont think I ever had a Pally that didnt look like a "pinball" and I am not sure what it was, hell even my 7k hammerdin got beat around pretty badly in Hell CS and he had max block suposedly.

Avengers unfortunately are so difficult in Classic as it all depends on the weapon. If you get a big hitt liek a hammer than it is too slow, then you go for a fast big hitter and then it is too many reqs and even then with the perfect gear they are still damn tuff in Hell.

Only good side to an Avenger in classic is everybody knows and likes to run with him!!! Sorcs get wet panties when they see convic and Javas just melt.