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did i f****d up another pala ? plz help...

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  1. dakotaN

    dakotaN IncGamers Member

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    did i f****d up another pala ? plz help...

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    the guide tells u to have str absolutely for gear , i have spirit that require 156 str , so i made base 150 , but next what i see that some guy posted that max base u need is 80-90 !
    im sooo confused , im dumpin another char i think , this is so annoying i wanna quit this game , please help me out with some GOOD suggestion ...

    im 1pt smite paladin , made for ubers.
     
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    Re: did i f****d up another pala ? plz help...

    Well to get to 156, if you have good gear you will only need 80 base to get to 156 to equip a monarch(btw why are you using a monarch? as a pally you have much better choices for Spirit)

    The extra points should goto Vit, but it not a major thing. It does hurt, but pally can handle the lower vit if you don't want to restart.

    I personally would restart, but if you don't want too you will be able to be fine.

    Just have fun
     
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    Re: did i f****d up another pala ? plz help...

    My smiter has ~109, but that is because the sheild I am using (griswolds), requires 148 (typo) strenght, and at that point I didn't have an anni or enigma for my smiter. (I build my smiter using cheap gear)

    But the items that I did have:
    Draculs Grasp: +10 Strength
    Thundegods: +20 Strength
    Guillaumes Face: + 15 Strength

    All ready we have +45 strength...

    (I now have +18str ring, +63 str eni and +19str anni, and now have 257 strength, and you think you put too much in strength. I could have used base strength)


    But why does it matter that much? You are not playing hardcore or PvP, the aim is to have fun, not to get perfect stats :smiley:
     
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    Re: did i f****d up another pala ? plz help...

    for me is to get perfect stats , but only for this pally , cuz i dont wanna die a lot and have trouble pwning uber bosses and do pvp..
    the sad thing is that i got owned several times by ama that was 18 lvl while i was 40.

    am i a totally sucker ? :)

    yeah and can u please give the the items i should wear in the end to do as much vita as i can ?

    and yeh how much dex do i actually need ? some items require like 140 , should i make it 140 ?
     
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    Re: did i f****d up another pala ? plz help...

    Why didn't you factor in a torch, anni, and all the gear that gives you str like treks, maras gives you 5 attributes, draculs gives you str, don't know what belt you are wearing but I use tgods and it gives you 20str, guill's face gives you 15.

    Just so you know smiters don't use spirit, (and if you for some reason do it should obviously be in a pally shield with +resists automod). it gives you caster stats like FCR. A cheap smiter shield is griswolds with 3 pdiamonds, then sanctuary then exile.

    You won't be able to pvp with your build, pure pvp smiters have 20 points in smite, and have enigma so they have low str and a lot of points in vita. You will get destroyed in pvp but against ubers you will be fine.

    I can solo uber trist with only 1200 life on my 1 point smiter so you will be fine.

    Also please reread the 1point smiter guide, you are asking a bunch of questions that are answered in there.


    @yacoby griswolds only needs 148 str not 184.
     
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    Re: did i f****d up another pala ? plz help...

    Buy your end gear and level your char, then place your stat points.

    So, you proberbly fought a char that is designed to kill other chars at level 18. My level 18 dueler has 1k life, and has killed a level 45+ pvm chars before now.

    Get something that has lifetap, like Draculs Grasp, which makes any health above ~1.3k pointless

    And health isn't everything, you need a balance.

    What +stat items are you using?

    As Copilot said, read the 1pnt Smiter Guide to UT

    Typo :wink3:


     
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    Re: did i f****d up another pala ? plz help...

    still dont get it o_O
    can somebody please help me out telling me what exact dex i need and why , same for str.

    sad but i just deleted this char , time to start over again ... T_T

    Strength enough for gear, dexterity enough for max block, vitality the rest,energy nothing. You have read the exact words a thousand times by now I’m sure.

    how much i actually need for max block with HS on ?
    damn im useless.
     
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    Re: did i f****d up another pala ? plz help...

    Get around 80-90 base strength, around 100 base dexterity. If you are going to use Grief in future (who knows?), aim for 136 dexterity after gear. So, if you use a Raven Frost (obligatory) and, say lowest Anni, you only need around 110 base dex.

    Do NOT use spirit for a Smiter, at least not in a Monarch. Like others said, a good budget shield is Griswold's. Utilize it.
     
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    Re: did i f****d up another pala ? plz help...

    I already told you just read the 1point smiter guide, we have no clue what endgame gear you plan on wearing or what shield.
     
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    Re: did i f****d up another pala ? plz help...

    like i have any clue what a noob zmitter SHOULD WEAR! :)
    i dont know a lot in this game , try to be patient and help me out ...

    okay lets make it clear , i WILL wear this at the end of my lvling till like 97.
    Weapon:grief ( only need mal to make it )
    gloves:Draculs Grasp ( dont have em , will be mfing )
    boots:gore rider ( same as draculs )
    helm:well atm i have this Guillaumes face helm , still not sure should i wear it or not , i think there are better stuff u can wear , shako maybe ? or not ....
    rings: raven + carrion ( have both ) not sure of carrion , thinkin of res ring.
    amu: i have crafted +2 to all skills and like 15-20+ resistances , still not sure.
    shield: dont even wanna think about it myself ;D
    belt:Thunder Gods i guess , dont have it atm but will do mfing.
    ani : dont have one , dont know how or where to get.
    torch : dont have one atm , if this pala will be cool i think il run for keys and then go uber like once in 2-3 days , just for myself :)

    Help me out with the armor , the guide says Forti , should i take it ?

    yeah and the items i just wrote , are they the best ?
    took em from the guide :)
    suggest.
     
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    Re: did i f****d up another pala ? plz help...

    You didn't specify armor.

    Anyway:

    - Helm: leave it at Guillaume's. Shako is USELESS here. You need Crushing Blow, not skills. Socket with Um if possible.

    - Rings: Raven + rare or magic with All Resist.

    - Amulet: Metalgrid is your best bet - again, you don't need skills, but resists are crucial for an UT smiter.

    - Shield: HoZ is obvious. Griswold's with 3xPdiamonds if you are on a budget

    - Armor: Smoke if poor. CoH or Fortitude if richer.

    Rest is good. Now, let's calcualte the +strength you get from these items:

    Dracs: +10
    Guill (most str-intensive piece, 115 str req): +15
    HoZ: +20

    Total: +45 (+30 if you count out Guillaume's). So, you only need 115-30=85 base strength to wear everything.

    Dexterity:

    Raven: +15 (minimum)

    So, a base dex of 121 is needed (unless you are going to use anni/torch).

    Don't forget that both TGod's and HoZ add 20 vita each.
     
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    Re: did i f****d up another pala ? plz help...

    oh at last someone replied!
    thanks for the info , but how about exile ?
    and if its ethernal , wont it be able to break if it repairs 1 dura in 4 sec ?

    yeah and ani , where do i get it ?
    and whats CoH ?
    suggestions ?
     
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    Please look at stickys, Dclone is where an anni drops, you aren't just going to find dclone though so you need to trade for anni. Like I said 3 times now the gear from the guide is the best, thats why its a guide. The guide doesn't say shako so why would you use it.

    CoH is Chains of Honor, its a runeword.

    Why would it break, if it does wait 4 seconds and its not broken anymore.
     
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    Re: did i f****d up another pala ? plz help...

    k im lvl 14 and i have 90 STR
    should i aim on 125 DEX now ? or should i put some in vita ?

    PS.
    i have shako (104) , shaftstop , ali baba , ormus robes ( Fire15% ).
    can i get some good runes from that ?
    i need LO and MAL runes to make forti and grief :)


    or if im poor ( in runes ) , whats the good way to get some ?
    collecting Pgems is not a suggestion i guess , or it is ?
     
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    Re: did i f****d up another pala ? plz help...

    If you gonna use a herald of zakarum and have around a lvl 25 holy shield. Then you are going to need 124 dexterity for 75% block at level 85.

    But this dexterity is needed at lvl 85, so you shouldn't put all into dexterity at level 14, but spread it out while you are levelling. Put first a bit into vitality, else you will die too quick at lower levels.

    If you can't get herald of zakarum then try to get a griswold shield 3x pdiamond indeed as already mentioned. Again with a lvl 25 holy shield you will need 137 dexterity with that for 75% block at level 85.

    Remember that your ravenfrost also gives dexterity, also a torch or anni might give you statpoints. You could always use a non-paladin cheap torch if you can't afford a paladin one, and replace it later on.

    I remember doing ubers with a shaeled wizspike on my smiter while i was budget. Most important are draculs gloves, crushing blow and a lot of resistances.
     
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    oh thanks :p
    okay , now please suggest me something about the runes i wrote about , and how to obtain or trade using items i listed below ?

    i dont wanna use anything else but the best items for my pala , i have mf soso , if i will need a shield for pala , i will go and try to get it , while pala is just doin nothing , or i will just lvl up without a shield , i think il lvl up till 95 then think about the gosu gear , and how to get it , all i need now is runes , but cant get good ones i need :(

    yeah and what i can trade for cheap torch ?
    what will i have to trade for it ?
     
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    Re: did i f****d up another pala ? plz help...

    why don't you try reading the new comers forum...
     
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    Re: did i f****d up another pala ? plz help...

    well, Lo's are kinda expensive. Your best bet might be not to make the grief yourself, but trade for 1 with bad stats on it. This way you might be able to get 1 for an ist maybe. A bad one really will already shine on your paladin. The armor isn't really important, and fortitude shouldn't be your primary concern.

    At hellforge hell you can get up to Gul rune, if you get gul or ist there, you might be able to get a bad grief phaseblade after some trading. The rest can mostly be traded vs pgems except for the herald of zakarum wich is worth +- minimal of an ist rune. I'd say just make an easy smoke (nef+lum in armor) for now, wich will give you a whopping 50 all res.

    Here is a little measure of values.
    40 pgem = +- um
    3 um = +- 1 ist
    1x organset = +- 2 um

    By the way, check your messages, i send you a link.
     
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    well its a pvm build for ubers.imo stats arent going to make a big dif :)
     
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    Re: did i f****d up another pala ? plz help...

    GimmerShred , i see forum gold instead of its value , do i have to register there ?
    yeah and why wont make it myself if all i need is Lo and Mal , i still got 5 chars on hell without HF quest done , il cross my fingers and go make em ^^


    PS. DIDNT WANNED TO DOUBLEPOST !!!

    i just got griffons 11% and -19% to enemy lighting resistance.

    what i can trade it for ?
     
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