DIABLO 3 why its taking soo long?

Do you agree D3 wont come out not until people stop playing WoW??


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alrav

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DIABLO 3 why its taking soo long?

I keep reading over and over when will diablo 3 be released.. Its very simple... Blizzard is a company, and their making games for profit, nothing happens unless the owner gets his billions of dollars. to ensure he gets even richer, he wants to milk as much money from us gamers as he can.

Its very clear, WoW is making millions of dollars, why create another game that could drop sales when they can create a monopoly and milk all the money out of WoW as they can.. So that being said, Diablo 3 WILL NOT COME OUT not until WoW IS dead or significantly droped sales and players... this is also the reason why star craft 2 isnt out yet. i give it another year. WoW can only be played soo much, i meen they already have 2 expansions, Its all about money... if u want diablo 3 to come out faster then boycot them and stop playing WoW.

Now you may ask " So why did they announce DIablo 3 soo early and make us wait 3 years"??? its very simple, think in regards to (WoW) again, follow the money , the players that stop playing WoW are getting hooked and promised a soon fresh game (diablo 3), Its all about making money.
If they announced d3 much later the players who quit WoW might forget about gaming and actually achieve goals in their lives rather then annticipate D3...

It pisses me off, They are doing this, but IF everyone starts to boycot and stop playing WoW Sooner something can be done.
 

Coleridge

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Re: DIABLO 3 why its taking soo long?

Paranoid or what? Diablo 3 isnt out yet because it isnt finished, simple as that.
 

korialstraz

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Re: DIABLO 3 why its taking soo long?

Agreed with Coleridge. Blizzard doesn't release games until they're done. I'd rather wait 3 or even 5 years for a superb game than have some crappy game shoved out before it's finished... like so many games are these days. Like those sports games... who can release new ones every 6 months!?
 

alrav

Diabloii.Net Member
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think what you want to , You have no facts to back up your claim and neither do I, but dont bash me because you fail too see why they are taking their sweet time.. You really think the release date will be when they have perfected the game? or a rushed product when WoW falls.. hmmm only time can tell. But like everything in REAL LIFE its all about the money.
 

Mcwhopper

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Re: DIABLO 3 why its taking soo long?

MMORPG players and ARPG players might have some overlap, but it's not the same market.
 

Silverfang

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Blizz already anounced working on a second MMO (although noone said "RPG" yet). So IF they are holding back D3, then it's because the new MMO isn't really on it's way yet. You know, it wouldn't be quite so popular with a not already drained WoW out there, would it? And if D3 comes out too soon, the chances of players going back to WoW before releasing their new honeypot would rise quite a bit...
 

Mackan

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Blizzard probably have put a lof of thought into their release schedule of games. The main reason they are so big today is because of their cashcow WoW. Most likely WoW will continue to do well even when Diablo 3 is released. But they need to be careful, a decline of a few million in WoW players could mean they need to start lay off people to keep a healthy budget.

In any case, why Diablo 3 is so far away is... a little bit of a mystery. I know Blizzard North was closed down, but waiting 10 years to play a sequel to a game that was, and still is, so popular isn't acceptable. Same goes for StarCraft 2.

I've said before, and I say it again; with the right people and ideas, a really good game shouldn't take more than 4-4.5 years to make. Remember that Diablo came out in November 1996, Diablo 2 in June 2000. That's a little more than 3.5 years. And now, they are probably lucky to make it 2010 with Diablo 3.
 

korialstraz

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think what you want to , You have no facts to back up your claim and neither do I, but dont bash me because you fail too see why they are taking their sweet time.. You really think the release date will be when they have perfected the game? or a rushed product when WoW falls.. hmmm only time can tell. But like everything in REAL LIFE its all about the money.
You've got your opinions, others got theirs. You asked for our opinions about why it's taking so long, and after sharing it with you, you tell us to stop bashing your opinion? I fail to see where I did that.

As others mentioned ARPG and MMORPG are not the same market. Some may go from D3 to WoW, but it doesn't matter much to Blizzard. Do you know why I believe so? While yes real life is often about money, Blizzard have demonstrated they have no issues with scrapping a game if they don't like it. Rumors has it that it happened to D3 at one point, and it was AFAIK confirmed that Starcraft: Ghost was scrapped since they didn't like it. Blizzard makes quality games and make a fortune with it. They won't rush a game because sales of one is dropping. They make quality games, and they have a very good reputation for it. Ask anyone who know anything about games and game developers.


 

AkumaSlayer

Diablo: IncGamers Member
Re: DIABLO 3 why its taking soo long?

It takes a long time to create a game with as much content as Diablo. That's it.

No WoW conspiracy theories here.
 

zrisher

Diabloii.Net Member
Re: DIABLO 3 why its taking soo long?

I believe, alrav, that your logic was on the right track. However, I think the profit motive only entered into the planning stages, not development.

In the end, Blizzard is a business, and businesses exist to make money. While, as Mcwhopper mentioned, it's important to remember the lack of complete market overlap, Blizzard's games still share a lot of common elements. The concurrent release of two games would be less profitable then if they were staggered, not to mention the increased labor required to fully concentrate on both at once. When you look at their releases over the past decade, it's clear that they did some strategic planning (strategery). That's what a smart company does.

I don't think, however, that they're holding back the release of Diablo 3 specifically because WoW came out bigger than expected. They simply timed their work so it would come out a while after SC2, which comes out a while after WoW. Again, smart.

I'd also like to point out that I am huge fan of Blizzard and find it sad that their reputation for quality is not something that game developers generally strive for.
 

DarkChaos

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Blizzard has taken many years with their games, usually releasing them with slightly outdated technology and graphics in favour of polished gameplay and replayability. While there is no doubt that Blizzard has given a lot of thought to their release dates for the reasons you mentioned, as well as others.

As korialstraz already mentioned - Blizz is dedicated to quality and they've officially scrapped at least two games: StarCraft:Ghost and WarCraft Adventures: Lord of the Clans.
 

Dacar92

Moderator: Community, D2 Zon, DH, Inc Clan Officer
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alrav, there are so many things in your OP to comment on. Of course it's about money. Why else would companies make games? But you can hardly call what Blizzard or Bethesda or Bioware do a monopoly. They create games to make money and to stay in business. It is their business to do that. They don't allow anyone else to build servers to host their games because it is their intellectual property. In a way I guess that is a monopoly. But it is not against the law. Nothing they do is bad or against the law.

Blizzard will release D3 when they're good and ready to release it. They hold back on release dates for their own reasons, not to drive us mad. Many companies miss release dates that were published or they hurry games and they fail because they're not ready...read: Hellgate. :(
 

Apocalypse

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so actors should only make a new movie after the dvd sales drop off from their last one? why publish more than 1 book, dont want to take sales away from your other book? even if people left wow for diablo the money still goes to bliz, infact they will make more money cause most people who leave wow will keep their account active for awhile.

main reason it is taking so long? they announce their games too early, plain and simple. maybe bliz can start making crap games just to please people like you, of course after it released they would have to hear from you and everyone else how bad it sucks but whatever, fast crap game > slow great game right?
 

ssjshadi

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I think you're thinking WAY to much. Diablo isn't out because it isn't finished yet. =P
 

ThomasJ

Diabloii.Net Member
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It probably is finished right now just sitting there on Mr Pardo's desk at this very moment.

Well when WOW making you billions is there a reason to rush anything else ? Heck, it took them 10 years just to announce Starcraft 2 and another 2 to finish the game. This is Blizzard, they are slow. Don't expect to see Diablo 3 anytime soon.
 

Grug

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OP = Fail

A, WoW isn't going to stop being popular for another five years or so.

B, It's take so long to announce Diablo 3 because they literally had to re-make it two or three times to get the style right.

C, Don't tell me you're one of the noobs that thinks the gameplay trailer shows a huge amount of progress. That was literally all they had completed when it was announced, aside from a few npcs.

D, You don't wait for one thing you make to stop being popular before starting another. If it stops being popular you can't get money from it to work on the new thing.


And a quick correction: Blizzard doesn't use sub-optimal graphics to focus on gameplay. They use sub-optimal graphics so older computers can run the game.
 

NJS

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I find it funny how the average gamer can give an answer or explain why something is when they have absolutely no experience in the area or how anything about it really works. Unless you work in Blizzard development or budgeting department, you have absolutely no grounds to talk, answer or develop a thesis because of the simple fact you don't know anything. That is the same mentality of players bashing a dev team for not being able to quickly fix a bug, or causing a new one that has no idea on how coding words, development processes works or how to do slightest thing beyond just playing the game.

I could rant and cut down the devs all day for not releasing content or patches fast enough but you know how much help I would be if they just picked me up and sat me down in their office? NONE because I don't know any of the coding used to make it, the process, or how it works, and I am pretty sure 98% of the player base doesn't either. Rarely do you see anyone that actually does this stuff for a living post something like this. So shut up and stop giving your opinion on something you know absolutely nothing about!
 

Daedrith

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@NJS: Harsh, but I agree completely.

We don't know a thing about whats going on behind the scenes at Blizzard so there is no way anyone can make these accusations. And besides, as others have stated they are two very different types of RPGs, and WoW isn't going anywhere for ages. DIII simply isn't done, it probably isn't even close. Blizzard always takes years to develop their games, and they usually are some of the best in the industry when they finally release, not unlike Valve (in my opinion, at least). Just give them time to make it the way they want to.
 
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