Diablo 3, why are we coming back?

[dimondmind]

Diablo 3, why are we coming back?

After reviewing all of the posted content on this site, the official diablo 3 site, and diablowiki, its hard to deny that diablo 3 looks amazing so far. The gameplay footage from blizzcon and other sources has shown multiple glamorous and exciting battle scenes. It all looks incredibly visceral, bloody, colorful, and engaging. But by immediately cutting to the front action to show us the live physical gameplay, Blizzard is neglecting the most necessary component in any multiple franchise installment promotion, focus on story continuity.

Whether its for a book, movie, or game one of the first things that any creators give to fans is an explanation for the sequel. And then its spread word of mouth like wildfire, "Oh yeah did you hear George Lucas is Making the next starwars episode return of the Jedi? I guess Han Solo gets rescued from the frozen carbonite and Luke battles Darth Vader on the Death star after he completes his jedi training! OMFG I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE". By doing this, fans are given a reason to get excited about watching the next movie, or diving into the next dungeon as the world is calling upon them once again to be apart of it as there are unresolved issues.

The issue that I'm having with Diablo 3's hype is that isn't showing us what those unresolved issues are. its showing us the hows and whats of what we are going to be playing, but not WHY's of "why" we will be playing. There hasn't been any definitive "The 3 brothers have re-united and once again the world of Sanctuary calls upon its heroes to defend their home" statements. The kind of statements that remind fans that there are still some unresolved issues in the world of sanctuary, and that they have a reason to come back and fight for it.

Is there anyone else out there afraid like me that the reason blizzard has neglected to promote the story is that its a weaker point of the overall game? That the reason they created a 3rd Diablo is shearly to bank on the franchises popularity despite a stagnant story line? Maybe I've walked straight into Blizzard's trap by making this assumption, and they'll end up slam dunking doubters like myself with a mind-blowingly epic plot finale, but until they give me some hope I'm going to continue worrying. Anyone else feel my unease with the way Blizzard is giving such little attention to the plot?

 

[Grug]

Re: Diablo 3, why are we coming back?

Blizzard doesn't talk about the plot because they want it to be a surprise. Also, they've said that they're still writing the story.

As for stagnant storyline, there's one very big plot thread at the end of LoD. The World Stone was the thing that both kept Humans from achieving the massive power that was their birthright and that prevented the majority of heaven and hell from knowing sanctuary's presence. It's not a lack of story but an Abundance. No one knows what the consequences of Tyrael's actions will be.

 

[dimondmind]

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I do agree with you on point about the world stone being destroyed, that is very fertile ground to further grow the story on. I think personally I just have a hard time getting amped up about all the sweet new character's, graphics, and spells, without knowing the background of the game first also.

 

[teh_Thrasher]

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the background? the background is the previous diablo games. perhaps u mean the missing 20 years.
heres what i see... the worldstone is shattered and mt arreat destroyed. the barbarians are aimlessly roaming the world now that their homeland is destroyed and evil is slowly making its way back into the world of sanctuary. the catch phrase i keep seeing "and the heavens shall tremble" makes me think that the forces of evil will be trying to use sanctuary as a stepping stone to attack heaven. and we mortals are caught in the middle and have to fight them off and eradicate the demons

 

[Azurak]

Re: Diablo 3, why are we coming back?

One Of My Main Reasons Of Playing Is To Bash That Bag Of Bones Leoric Agian

 

[KillaMike]

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One Of My Main Reasons Of Playing Is To Bash That Bag Of Bones Leoric Agian

not again for me, but just to bash his BUTT OFF

yeah, i admit that i missed d1 ( aka didnt play it ) but it doesnt mean i havent read wiki ( normal.... ) and be aware of what had happened there.... so i am looking who is gonna be evil now, cause diablo / devil been killed, evil trio ( baal / mephie / baal ) no more any more, so i wounder who is baddy now? alience? ( my spelling :coffee: )

 

[Mizantrop]

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not again for me, but just to bash his BUTT OFF

yeah, i admit that i missed d1 ( aka didnt play it ) but it doesnt mean i havent read wiki ( normal.... ) and be aware of what had happened there.... so i am looking who is gonna be evil now, cause diablo / devil been killed, evil trio ( baal / mephie / baal ) no more any more, so i wounder who is baddy now? alience? ( my spelling :coffee: )

I've been playing D1+hellfire lately and they are still good if you are looking for something to do until D3.

As for the OP. I don't enjoy knowing everything before hand. I rather discover it all as I play the game. Also the "guessing" game that goes around this forum is part of the fun, you can gain bargging rights by hitting the hammer on the head :thumbup:
I.E: Saw Valkyrie last night and was very disappointed by it. I might have enjoyed it more if I didn't know the ending, like the moron that sat next to me (The bad guys won?!? WTF!).

 

[ZSiegfried]

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I agree and disagree with you at the same time. Blizzard does under emphasize Diablo lore. You don't NEED to know the lore to be able to click on and beat monsters, there is no "bonus" or even benefit (despite maybe enjoying the game more) to knowing the lore. BUT they are creating a hype... I mean, just have a look at all the theories that are floating around in this wonderful forum and the way we bounce ideas off of each other! Its truly amazing!

They are simmering the lore, just to give us an overdose when the game comes out. I like how they are achieving this hype, even though I feel unsatisfied in what I am getting. I mean, all the regulars in the lore forum just want more the whole time! And from a marketing perspective, if you can keep that "want" going you have achieved your goal.

And UNFORTUNATELY the majority of Diablo players don't care about the lore, they just want to *click *click *click away at monsters, so it understandable that Blizzard focuses on the brute force of the game, rather than its story...

 

[Zeek]

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I wish they would at least give us something like you said. With Starcraft 2 you get at least the basics that the Zerg have been bidding their time on Char and have evolved ready to make their presence known again. They need something like that for D2. Something more than "I don't think it's safe here".

 

[ZSiegfried]

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Maybe once SC gets released they will focus more on Diablo?

 

[raveharu]

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After reviewing all of the posted content on this site, the official diablo 3 site, and diablowiki, its hard to deny that diablo 3 looks amazing so far. The gameplay footage from blizzcon and other sources has shown multiple glamorous and exciting battle scenes. It all looks incredibly visceral, bloody, colorful, and engaging. But by immediately cutting to the front action to show us the live physical gameplay, Blizzard is neglecting the most necessary component in any multiple franchise installment promotion, focus on story continuity.

Whether its for a book, movie, or game one of the first things that any creators give to fans is an explanation for the sequel. And then its spread word of mouth like wildfire, "Oh yeah did you hear George Lucas is Making the next starwars episode return of the Jedi? I guess Han Solo gets rescued from the frozen carbonite and Luke battles Darth Vader on the Death star after he completes his jedi training! OMFG I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE". By doing this, fans are given a reason to get excited about watching the next movie, or diving into the next dungeon as the world is calling upon them once again to be apart of it as there are unresolved issues.

The issue that I'm having with Diablo 3's hype is that isn't showing us what those unresolved issues are. its showing us the hows and whats of what we are going to be playing, but not WHY's of "why" we will be playing. There hasn't been any definitive "The 3 brothers have re-united and once again the world of Sanctuary calls upon its heroes to defend their home" statements. The kind of statements that remind fans that there are still some unresolved issues in the world of sanctuary, and that they have a reason to come back and fight for it.

Is there anyone else out there afraid like me that the reason blizzard has neglected to promote the story is that its a weaker point of the overall game? That the reason they created a 3rd Diablo is shearly to bank on the franchises popularity despite a stagnant story line? Maybe I've walked straight into Blizzard's trap by making this assumption, and they'll end up slam dunking doubters like myself with a mind-blowingly epic plot finale, but until they give me some hope I'm going to continue worrying. Anyone else feel my unease with the way Blizzard is giving such little attention to the plot?

Now you are really silly if you think that few sentences they placed in the website be the storyline of the game. Do you not know Blizzard approach to Diablo games?

They did the exact thing when Diablo 2 was to be released, and no one then knew that all the Prime Evils and even the Worldstone in Mt Arreat would be involved.

Blizzard will never reveal the story behind Diablo 3,even prior to the game release, reason so, we have to find it out ourselves. And that's what makes it good.

If you've even bothered to do a little research before posting, there are items called Story scroll. These are already evidences that we the players have to work out the story ourselves :scratchchin:

 

[Lynchgrinch]

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We're only making educated assumptions her, based on the limited lore we have at our disposal. i'll say one thing at least. Blizzard need to concentrate more on the Diablo lore, and stop with the whole Warcraft/WoW thing. The world of diablo has such potential but it's just not been delved into enough. Sure, the sin war books are great but they're still very limited.

You know what i wish?

I wish Diablo lore was so important to the fans in general that there could be whole seperate forum sites for lore! my other big fantasy serise is the wheel of time. have you guyes ever seen Dragonmount.com? it's an explosion of people, like us lore regulars, who just spend the years between books discussing every possibility for the next book! i wish Diablo fans were as plot obsessed as i am... there are too many people who only play for the amazing gameplay, which make no mistake is amazing. Im glad to know some people still come for the lore!

go geeks!

*salutes lore fans worldwide*

 

[Lehetetlen]

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We have just undone the masterminded banishment of the three to Sanctuary by sending their souls back to the hells and ensure they will remain there for a while with the destruction of their soulstones. Although they still managed to achieve part of their mission.

Actually by getting "exiled" Diablo, Mephisto and Baal were able to circumvent the pact between heaven and hell to leave Sanctuary alone. Also, getting their souls captured by the soulstones, which they corrupted, ensured that even if their physical bodies get destroyed their souls remained on Sanctuary. So they could re-manifest themselfes should they successfuly possess someone and continue with their plans to get all of humanity for themselfes.

So we have much to do, now that the Worldstone and with it all protection it gave is gone. Perhaps it is time to look for ways to destroy the invaders ...permanently.

p.s.:Sorry for the length I couldn't condense my thoughts into a single sentence :whistling:

 

[ReaperEOD]

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Well honestly my biggest fear was first realized on the main site and I quote: "When Deckard Cain returns to the ruins of Tristram Cathedral seeking clues to defeat new stirrings of evil, a fiery harbinger of doom falls from the heavens, striking the very ground where Diablo once entered the world." This made me think in my head "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" due to the fact that they need to get out of Tristram for 5 minutes and give us some new areas! >_< (although d2/LoD was obviously a step in the right direction)

I am severely hopeful that, since their system supports massive amounts of little enemies, that "And the Heavens shall Tremble" implies that heaven will be assaulted upon by the forces of hell. In a last-ditch effort Heaven will rely upon the mortal heroes to defend the gates of heaven alongside archangels and mortals alike. I think a last-stand kind of thing where you have to fight increasingly numerous and strong wave after wave of enemies.. that would be so.. cool =) Also the look of the Pandamonium Fortress is also awesome

And I do understand that the worldstone is the key to all of this, initially the corrupted worldstone would've turned into another portal to hell. But how are they going to get through now?

 

[Grug]

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I wouldn't mind a heaven zone as long as it's NOT the last act.

 

[Mizantrop]

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I wouldn't mind a heaven zone as long as it's NOT the last act.

Titan's Quest Act 4=Olympus (heaven)
Titan's Quest:Immortal Throne Act 5=Hades (hell)

I don't think Blizzard would be so bold as to copy that and get away with it :wink:

 

[Wolven]

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I think it could be an act where you defend heaven and kill diablo (if he's in d3) and another act in sanctuary where an archangel (Imperius?) leads an army to destroy Sanctuary.
But it would be too much like Diablo 2 Lod so I think it's very unlikely.

Anyway if they make an exansion Diablo won't be the final boss, like in D2.:dontknow:

 

[Daedrith]

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I wouldn't mind a heaven zone as long as it's NOT the last act.

Perhaps Tristram will be revisited in the final act rather than an earlier one? End it where it began.

And I definitely do hope there is a heaven-ish level. Or something in-between there and Sanctuary. With an epic battle.

 

[Sideways]

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The examples listed in the first post are viewed a bit backwards it seems to me. Very few good trailers for good story driven entertainments (games, movies, books, whatever) give away the WHY of whats going on like youre asking for. yes han solo was back, but WHY was he back? You dont know until you see it. They show you what WILL go on. And leave it to you to think and talk about the WHY. Then you go and experience whatever is they wanted you to experience, and you find out the WHY as you go. But not before.

That why is the story, you never give away the story before hand.

We know diablo is back. We know the world is once again fooked. We know its up to us nerds to click away and save the world. We dont know WHY the events that are happening are happning. And wont until we find out the story they want to tell us. I dont want the spoilers of why until im there doing it myself.

 

[Sir Mister]

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Personally, I feel like there is TOO much given to reveal the story, but then I read into every tag line, every image, and every obscure reference. I have within my soul a 50% certainty I know the general plot of the game, which is not that high, but too high seeing as how I want to be totally blown away my first time playing it. More after the jump.

Spoiler

I believe the "fiery crash" is obviously an angel of some kind, and that this fallen angel will be the one leading a crusade against heaven itself, formed of a mixed breed of (primarily) typical evil foes and (to a lesser extent) some fallen compatriots or similar from-heaven-but-evil type things, leading to a final act plot twist- Tyrael, who was guiding you in this, is really the one leading the rebellion, and/ or the leader of the rebellion is a prime evil in disguise, most likely with a bit of a "you played like a perfect pawn into their brilliant plot" mixed in

I really hope I'm dead wrong, and respect Blizzard for not giving away more than they have, primarily Because I agree the story is the most important part.