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Diablo 3 Needs More Gold Sinks?

Discussion in 'Diablo 3 General Discussion' started by Flux, Jan 24, 2015.

  1. Flux

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    Diablo 3 Needs More Gold Sinks?

    [caption id="attachment_382715" align="alignright" width="250"][​IMG] Searching for the Arkenstone.[/caption]A fan expressed a rare non-nerfing opinion and got a Blue reply. Since it's an issue I've seen fans talking about lately, let's get into it. Diablo 3 Needs More Gold Sinks?

    When are we gonna get decent gold sink?

    I swim in gold like Dagobert the Duck even though I´ve never used Hoarder gem. What's the point of having the gold if you do not have any options to spend it?
    Vaneras: Not everyone are swimming in gold Scrooge McDuck style though, but here is a question out of curiosity, what makes a decent gold sink to you? I mean, what kind of gold sink would you like to have? [source]http://diablo.incgamers.com/blizzard-tracker/devthread/eu/13123107959[/source]


    The Blue's request for Gold Sink ideas is a worthy topic, but I'm more interested in the OP's complaint. Are most players in Reaper of Souls really that rich in gold? I mean sure, if you use a Boon of the Hoarder, but if not? In my experience once you can run T6 Rifts efficiently, you find more gold than you need, but until you're geared up to that level, you're going to be broke. Especially if you're doing a lot of enchanting and/or gem upgrading.

    Just this week in Clan Chat a couple of guys were talking about the double Goblin buff and how all they really wanted was to find a golden portal, since they'd been broke for the entirety of Season Two without ever a Boon of the Hoarder. I was surprised to hear it, but once I thought about it, I could see a number of potential reasons for players to still be gold poor.

    What if you're in the habit of doing a lot of alts and spending tons of gold to gear them? Or you're Hardcore and you lose your main with all those millions of gold worth of gems and enchanted gear? Or you're casual and haven't geared up to roll T6 yet? In any or all of those cases, you're probably skint all the time, unless/until you find The Vault and get your Boon.

    Is that how it should be, though? Are you guys happy with the state of gold income in Diablo 3? Do you think there's enough gold from playing normally? Are the methods to increase gold drops, via Paragon Points or GF% on gear, adequate? Do you like the Boon of the Hoarder or think it's too "all or nothing" with players broke until they find it, then immediately so rich that gold becomes meaningless?

    [poll id="191"]​

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  2. koko

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    I think most people are only playing their main (a M6 for the most talkative) and of course they find no good items and swim in gold.
    A good gold sink: a way to raise a second main more rapidly. I am bored with my main, but after having tasted the legendary drop rate of T6 and GR30, going back to T1 and GR20 is really dull.
    Let them make us buy legendary items or add MF (capped to T6) for gold.
     
  3. maareek

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    I don't know how widespread this is but a Greater Rift guardian dropped my Boon of the Hoarder last week before I ever got into the Vault, which I assume is a bug but also happened to the only other person I know who plays but didn't already have one. If that is the game working as intended, then the days of gold scarcity may be behind most though if it's a bug it still leaves some without.

    For my part, I was definitely living pretty much hand to mouth on gold even just playing a single character until I got to T6 capable. I did that grind solo and it took quite a while and admittedly I didn't play for some stretches so this broke part encompasses times when enchanting jewely took higher gems than now etc., but it was a pretty constant situation of save up while going without gear upgrades and then blow all of it enchanting when upgrades did drop. I finally got into the Vault, twice, with the double goblins this week and cleared >100 million from that, which immediately went into upgrading gems, which ate all of it. Granted, after doing some T6 rifts with a Boon I'm sitting at 250 million, but I can still see how someone without that luxury could be flat broke.

    That said, I don't even know how I could run through my bank faster than I could replenish it now. If I upgraded all my marquise gems to imperial it'd burn almost 100 million but I have enough max level gems right now that going further wouldn't make sense, and even though some of my gear pieces would take about a million to enchant again 1. I'm happy with where they are and 2. I'd get soul capped long before I got gold capped. I don't even bother putting Boon in at this point - T6 rifts by themselves provide plenty of gold - and I know there are people with literal billions of gold who may not even remember gold is in this game anymore.

    I'm not sure if it's a problem, it's not like the stuff takes up space like in the original Diablo, but I'm sure there's room for additional gold sinks that give some meaning to the stuff for those who have an abundance. Maybe the ability to buy materials? Or the ability to gamble with gold (even if you make the prices astronomical; 500million for a weapon gamble or something of the like would at least provide a catalyst to make the decision of hunting gold at the high end)? Or changing gabmling so you can add gold to the shard cost to narrow the search, as in: pay 25 shards and 1 million gold, increase chance of <set> or <legendary> belt by X or the like? Maybe make keywarden keys purchasable for gold? Introducing a way to purchase shards for gold, even if, again, at a massive cost? And there may even be good ideas in addition to the drivel I can come up with.
     
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    Flux ... much love man, but why? Why kick the hornets nest? To be honest, I'm still suffering PTSD from the days of being endlessly broke back when D3 launched. And, those days went on and on.

    Don't you all remember the 'repair' cost that got so inflated one just had to stop and go kill goats for 3 hours to get enough gold to repair items enough to go on farming for real?

    I feel like Boon of the Hoarder is seriously just an apology for putting the player base through that garbage.

    So, now we have gold stacking up ... But, it takes quite a while when season begins to get to that point. If they start to employ some new crazy gold sink ... we'll be right back where we started 3 years ago.

    To ask for a gold sing, with this games record, is like asking for a whole in your money bag. you want a gold sink?!! Do ya! Do ya! I'll give you a gold sink~! WHAM! now you're busted broke all the time again ... no thanks. I like to watch it pile up
     
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    Just put in some simple things like buying cursor customisation. People can spend some 100's of mils that way
     
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    I've spent 1 billion rerolling to multishot to cluster back to multishot since 2.1.2, gold sink is alright by me.
     
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    Too overpowered. I'm much more in favour of an enhantment option that costs 3-4x the normal price, but presents 3 affixes instead of 2 to choose from. Nothing stopping it from being 3 of the same thing of course. Basically it speeds up the enchantment process so it's not so tedious, but otherwise there's no additional gain.
     
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    It might be nice for some other Stuff to spend gold on, but I don't think the amount of gold that exists now is in itself an issue, but rather a symptom of the whole in-game 'economy' being a little bit of a mess (which is understandable since it's pretty hard to balance an economy, especially when you don't have a real economy that balances itself).

    Being awash with gold and mats WAS Blizz's 'solution' to the Crafting and Mystic costs not being set at very appropriate level. Rather than tweak the cost of things to try to balance them (which is hard, and possibly unachievable) they just went "meh - here, just take all the resources and sort it out yourself".

    And, in fairness, it kind of worked.
     
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    Incgamers already play Season 2? :D ;)

    On topic: I am swimming in gold like the guy who posted, but I am also not spending (b)millions on enchanting my gear to perfection, which I guess is all the difference.
     
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    Well, anyone that can clear a GR should have no money problems anymore as BotH now drops in GRs as well as I recently found out after an extended break. Played extensively at the start of season 1 but never found a Greed portal. Was pleasantly surprised when I fired up a GR to check out the patch.
     
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    Need less gold and more blue crafting mats!
     
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    I've long thought something like that would be useful, and put an option for it into the QoL post a few days ago. Bliz improved the enchanting options some months ago, so you don't get 2 of the same affix offered anymore, but when I'm looking at that interface with room for 5 or 6 options, and it's only showing 2 and I've already done 10 rolls trying to get fire damage on an amulet and figure I'll need to do 25 more before it comes up... I'd happily pay more for more options at once.
     
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    Well I played S2 on the PTR, and was broke until I remembered that Wave of Trials reward was bugged to give equal amounts of gold/exp, and that's how I wound up with 68billion gold. But yeah, typo in the article.
     
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    That was a recent addition, but it's only the case if you've already entered Greed's Domain on that account in that game mode (hardcore or softcore). Won't help people who have never found The Vault in the first place.

    http://diablo.incgamers.com/blizzard-tracker/devthread/us/15699505144
     
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    I got my first Boon of the Hoarder ever last week from a Greater Rift Guardian three days before my first time entering the Vault. When the Vault portal finally opened for me, it was in a game with a friend who said he had also never had one open before but had also had gotten one from a Greater Rift Guardian since the latest patch. The Blizzard explanation you've indicated may be the way it is intended to work, but the actual in-game drop is not working that way, at least some percentage of the time.
     
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    i respectfully disagree with this all u can use gold for atm is upgrading crafting mystic and repairing! (im not a massive min maxer) there is no trading any more (which eliminates gold farms which is a good change) for me gold has no value with the minor exception of starting fresh on a season (until u hit greeds domain) or starting up a fresh char on non season (you will have a resevoir of gold anyways).... my idea for a gold sink would be to plow your excess into the clan system to give clan bonus for example add extra magic find for he whole clan - the more members the more gold u need so on and so forthor use 10x the normal current amount to enchant a second affix on items 100x to enchant a third, there is plenty of ideas just unwillingness to implement a system for it
     
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    there is too much grey area with gold sinks (same with gem sinks) hopefully they will implement some sort of gold to bloods on kadala say pay 1 mil for 5 bloods just so u can actually spam for the higher priced items or increase mystic slots to say 5 options not including yours at a higher cost or a guaranteed roll of your choice again for a high cost, with crafting you could get guaranteed ancient item, or u could put progression bars on to legendary items which use gold to add a random affix (class specific so no strength on wiz etc)could be anything even thorns on weapons and u reset it on the mystic so u can put more gold into it.
     
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    i would pay tons of gold to add a socket to my godly xephririan amu for example... why cant i do that? i have more gold then i will ever need so it sucks and u cant gamble for loot either or buy super expensive items at AH for example :(
     
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    Same situation here. I've never found the Greed portal on my softcore character, yet it dropped from a greater rift guardian. I have found it on hardcore, though.
     

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