Diablo 3 information no one seems to know

Nextt

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Diablo 3 information no one seems to know

Firstly I recently registered but I have always checked here to see if maybe there was information that wasn't on b.net cause sometimes there was due to Quotes. Anyways i read some of these forums and you guys all have these unrealistic idea's that are also retarded and misconceived that come to your mind now, due to WoW. (I explain below)

I don't think that 90% of the people on this forum don't quite yet understand, Diablo 3 is not an MMORPG. just an RPG. The "World Map" on there website is perhaps a little misleading. You guys think your all in this world at the same time or something when you ARNT. It's the same as it was before where you can make a game, see games and join. max players being 8 or less(don't remember the # for d3 but its the same or less). So therefor if you leave the game and everyone does the game does get taken down, information erased. There is not "shared" information between all these games that are made so things like a mailbox system that you can trade with is out of the question. It could exist to where b.net 2.0 has a intelligent bot that you can use it to send a msg to someone right when they log on and that can be mail. But transfering of anything between people through any external thing is simply not happening. This is also why there is not going to be an "Auction House" (unless maybe they have a game thats up 24/7 like a trading channel that allows infinite people to join and is made to where if it goes down you don't loose everything in the auction house), and even in that case the idea if far fetched. Due to the fact it isn't an MMORPG but just an RPG and not a main world, i hope to god that they focus on the PvP aspect because theres no such things as "Late Game PvE" in these types of games(at least not in a WoW sense). Hopefully no pvp rewards that is fail also. Unfortunately if the people from WoW are the ones really doing D3 that sucks because that means they are going to follow what they thought of D2 (which was they wanted it to be a CO-OP type of RPG that was ment for PvE and they didn't really focus on PvP) Thus they think everyone wants PvE instances blahblah when also D3 as we know isn't going to have healers etc, there isn't going to be much strategy put into the boss encounters that exist because it simply isn't how non MMO games play out. And also if they make it so you get max levels from quests that ridiculously stupid, you will be bored as **** if you can't just every now and then be like "I feel like leveling on my main guy and not working on another alt" Like in D2 where lvl 1-90 was easy but after 90 it started to take forever, so people didn't care much about really going past lvl 85, thankfully there wasn't much need other than a small advantage as far as stats/skill points go, no items you could use past then went and made it overpowerful to be lvl 99. It was just a small edge. So hopefully D3 also does not have you hit max lvl, hopefully there is not items that are amazing lvl 100 compared to being lvl 90. (Thus assuming lvl 100 is max lvl just as a random # generation to be easily projected) but those 10 levels simply gives you a small advantage at the fact you get some stats / skill points.

SO STOP TRYING TO BE LIKE I WANT THIS IN D3 WHEN IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS DONE IN THIS KIND OF SETTING OF A GAME. ITS ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT SEPARATES THESE TYPES OF GAMES.
 

sreda

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I post avidly in the bnet forums. I have no idea what you're talking about, people here are more sane.
 

widde

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"we shoudnt have an Auction house bcause WoW has one" is not a valid argument imo.
Im not saying there should be an auction house, but it would be one way to fix the crappy trade system in D2. The only thing that determines if an auction house is viable or not, is how they decide to create a currency, if they do at all.

I dont care if there is an AH or not, as long as they do SOMETHING to drastically improve the trading.
 

konfeta

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1. Chill.
2. The "Enter" key is your friend.
3. Your post can be summarized as "you all have a different idea than me of what new features D3 should have, so **** you, you are retarded."

Take your own advice, sit down, and think about it. Just because a feature comes from WoW or another MMORPG game, doesn't mean it will automatically fail in an ARPG like Diablo. Look at the idea itself and how it can fit the game, not the source of the idea.
 

amerikhan

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Your post can be summarized as "you all have a different idea than me of what new features D3 should have, so **** you, you are retarded.".
I lol'd. OP's post can be classified as a RANT.


 

Mav451

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Lol you already posted this in the Auction House thread. Was it necessary to repeat yourself here?
 

korialstraz

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Take your own advice, sit down, and think about it. Just because a feature comes from WoW or another MMORPG game, doesn't mean it will automatically fail in an ARPG like Diablo. Look at the idea itself and how it can fit the game, not the source of the idea.
Some people (including OP) should read this! And not just read and forget... think about it. Might get some more interesting discussions out of it.


 

paperkut

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SO STOP TRYING TO BE LIKE I WANT THIS IN D3 WHEN IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS DONE IN THIS KIND OF SETTING OF A GAME. ITS ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT SEPARATES THESE TYPES OF GAMES.
It's when games break traditional boundaries that make them unique and exciting. What fun is it if every game that came out followed a specific formula? We'd be seeing the same game with different wallpaper.

And there is nothing wrong with the people in these forums wanting this or that from other games put into D3. Most of them provide a good explanation as to how their wants could be successfully integrated.


 

Jimbob

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Wasn't there already another thread talking about this? I think everybody already made their point clear; they want a DiabloMart.
 

5zigen

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Why do you assume you know more about diablo 3 than 90% of the people on this forum?

Particularly when you haven't seemed to follow the news on the game...
 

Ishtor

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Firstly I recently registered but I have always checked here to see if maybe there was information that wasn't on b.net cause sometimes there was due to Quotes. Anyways i read some of these forums and you guys all have these unrealistic idea's that are also retarded and misconceived that come to your mind now, due to WoW.
Ok buddy,

I will try to help you out here, and break it down as simple of possibble.

1. BIG BLOCKS OF TEXT ARE HARDER TO READ try and break them down to paragraphs, it make it easier to follow and read.

2. What forum have you been reading most of us known that the worl limit is going to be around 4.

3. it has been compared to wow many times, because they are taking stuff from that game, like in my opinion WOW took stuff from diablo. They are just improving what they already have.

4. It is very possible for them to implanent a mailing system, that type of information would be assigned to a charecter not a game. Also they have talked about having the stash intown be linked to all you charecters, atleast i think i have read that somewhere.

5. I would not like an auction house, but at the same time this is something that could be done easily, every action house could exsist in every game you go to and be connected to the same server. It could be done, but i hope it isn't. most of the fun is trading between players and a AH will kill this part of the game.

6. WOW pvp is really good in my opinion, and for an MMO there is nothing wrong with that game, probally why it is the #1 MMO. You are right Diablo is not wow, but even if the smae people that do wow was doing diablo, the game would come out great. Although i am pretty sure the people that worked on wow are still working on it since they have not released all content, and they always working on patches and fixes. Beside BLizzard really believes Quality over quanity, and there track record proves that.

7. I would like lvl 98 req items making to where getting to the higher and max level more enjoyable. to me though lvling to the max lvl is part of the game. you can do MF runs while leveling, but the game does offer other stuffto do besides leveling 1 charcter to 99. you can have multiple charecters, item fining and dueling.

8. Levling to max level should not be easy, it should require qork, if you hit max level jsut playing though the game, that in my opinion would be dumb. Grinding is a big part of all RPG's, and it is a part that should be included.


I think this hits ever point you have talked about. I had to copy your wall in note pad, and break it up myself, my first point is very important for you to read.


 
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Putz

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I read three quarters of the wall of text before I could not handle anymore.

It appears as if you have not read up much on this game and what people want or would like to see in the game. There is hardly enough information to answer the big questions. That's in Blizzard's hands.

As for the statement about the WoW team working on Diablo 3... this was a joke right? Diablo 3 is as big of a project as WoW or Starcraft 2. It has it's own team, with it's own project team and managers.

You need to read up quite a bit more on Diablo 3 before you come here and make these inane threads.
 

Risingred

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As for the statement about the WoW team working on Diablo 3... this was a joke right?
Maybe not. I wouldn't be surprised if they shuffled over some people from working on WoW to work on D3 for coding or art, depending on what they're doing with the next expansion.
They took a lot of people from SC2 and put them on the D3 team to help them out, after all.

They can do this because they have a consolidated visual style, a company-wide objective in a way. I know that all three games look considerably different but the fact is that they're starting to meld a bit. Here's hoping their new project melds more with Diablo 3 and SC2 than WoW.

To the point, though, I didn't get past the first sentence. I don't know what makes you think it's a good idea to just come in here and insult everybody who posts for no apparent reason. This is not battle.net and the moderators won't let you do that for very long, as a warning.


 

Putz

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Maybe not. I wouldn't be surprised if they shuffled over some people from working on WoW to work on D3 for coding or art, depending on what they're doing with the next expansion.
They took a lot of people from SC2 and put them on the D3 team to help them out, after all.
That would be an interesting question to ask Blizzard.


 

Nextt

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Ok buddy,

I will try to help you out here, and break it down as simple of possibble.

1. BIG BLOCKS OF TEXT ARE HARDER TO READ try and break them down to paragraphs, it make it easier to follow and read.

2. What forum have you been reading most of us known that the worl limit is going to be around 4.

3. it has been compared to wow many times, because they are taking stuff from that game, like in my opinion WOW took stuff from diablo. They are just improving what they already have.

4. It is very possible for them to implanent a mailing system, that type of information would be assigned to a charecter not a game. Also they have talked about having the stash intown be linked to all you charecters, atleast i think i have read that somewhere.

5. I would not like an auction house, but at the same time this is something that could be done easily, every action house could exsist in every game you go to and be connected to the same server. It could be done, but i hope it isn't. most of the fun is trading between players and a AH will kill this part of the game.

6. WOW pvp is really good in my opinion, and for an MMO there is nothing wrong with that game, probally why it is the #1 MMO. You are right Diablo is not wow, but even if the smae people that do wow was doing diablo, the game would come out great. Although i am pretty sure the people that worked on wow are still working on it since they have not released all content, and they always working on patches and fixes. Beside BLizzard really believes Quality over quanity, and there track record proves that.

7. I would like lvl 98 req items making to where getting to the higher and max level more enjoyable. to me though lvling to the max lvl is part of the game. you can do MF runs while leveling, but the game does offer other stuffto do besides leveling 1 charcter to 99. you can have multiple charecters, item fining and dueling.

8. Levling to max level should not be easy, it should require qork, if you hit max level jsut playing though the game, that in my opinion would be dumb. Grinding is a big part of all RPG's, and it is a part that should be included.


I think this hits ever point you have talked about. I had to copy your wall in note pad, and break it up myself, my first point is very important for you to read.
I don't know if you did those as being against what i said or for it, because some of these is what i said with you re iterating it.
Like Numbers 5, 7 and 8.
I never said you shouldn't not be able to hit max level. I agree it should just

be harder for the last 10-20 levels to where if your level 95 and you can't be

a level 99 in PvP because theres some huge item difference of what your

allowed to wear thats stupid. A lvl 90 should be able to stand a chance

against a 95 even a 99. If theres to big of a difference everyone is going to

be forced to spend 4 months(random time) to hit max level instead of doing

other things that are fun at the same time.

And I didn't say a mailing system couldn't exist, I said I just don't think it will

be able to implement to where you can send items through the mail.

And w/e about an auction house type thing, people need to stop crying about having to do wuw/wug things because that enables socialization trading and just adds that extra edge of having to really pay attention and think "what do I need, what can I get for this etc" Sometimes its annoying, but its much better...


 

Ishtor

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I did not disagree with everything you said your first statement was ill made. I just listed my opinion on what you wrote.

the item difference between a lvl 90 and a level 99 item should not be that big of a difference, but should give the higher level charecter a slight of an advantage. for 2 reasons, taking the time to make a higher lvl charecter and having better gear. the lvl 90 vs 100, should be able to go either way, but the 100 should have the better shot in advantage, not including skill.
 

blikst

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That would be an interesting question to ask Blizzard.
I saw one interview with Jay on YT (it's probably still there), where he was asked how many from the D2 crew was working on the game. His answer where that a third of the D3 (larger than D2) crew came from Blizzard north. As for how many from Wow or Sc2 they never got into.


 

Jedouard

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So, essentially, the OP is stating that all RPG's should be the exact same, that everything within the RPG has to be instanced and that there should be no end game content because he likes PvP.

I know, man1111 I mean, think about how impossible it would be for the developers to 1) program a permanent auction area, 2) to come up with an interesting end-game content, 3) to make other areas where players can level high-end characters without being restricted to that content should they not have the time for it, 4) make PvP interesting at the same time as doing all of this. This probably the most impossiblest thing ever1111 I mean it wasn't in D2, so how could it work????

Anyway, that sort of reasoning is worthless. They are developers and they can do pretty much anything with the game. Their job, as a company, is to make sure everyone has not only a nitch for their own personal play style but a way to avoid aspects that they really don't like. And both of these include everything from grinding to questing to trading to item searching to PvP and on and on and on.
 
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