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desynch hammerdin

Discussion in 'PvP' started by conor rocks, Sep 10, 2006.

  1. conor rocks

    conor rocks IncGamers Member

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    desynch hammerdin

    How much fcr should they have and what gear?
     
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    SicHalo IncGamers Member

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    125% fcr for maximum efficency,


    Gear however is reletively open and can depend on what chars ur facing, although here are some common setups;


    Shako Ber/rare circlet or coronet 2 pala 20% fcr + other mods
    Pala spirit, sacred targe or sacred Rondache/Zaka
    hoto/Wizzy spike
    trang/mages
    archnid mesh belt
    water walks/sands
    pala fcr amu/maras
    fcr rings/soj/BK
    Enigma

    Most use Spirit route due to it helps reaching the 125% fcr breakpoint much easie, despite the lack of 2 combat skills u lose, but u also gain fhr, good res, mana and a little life from using this shield.

    Shako again is a common helm due to the high dr, u can get from it, the mana and res mods, although these are not able to be affected by bo but still offer alot of stats + 2 skills and minnion 2 all stats.

    A nice circlet at times can be supperior if its a good one giving 2 skills 20% fcr life + mana mods and other usefull stats like all res and possible str + dex.


    Wizzy is a good weap to use as it gives u the huge stack potential as well the high mana mods + the 50% fcr, Hoto is also nice offering the res, dex and 3+ skill at 40% fcr. Some use spirit swords but i only recomend these if ur getting atleast 30-35% fcr ideally perfect fcr as this will save the need for getting other items to replace the lost fcr.

    Most of the other items are adjustable, i.e depending on ur setup and amount of fcr ur gear has ur rings are pretty flexable and amu as well.


    Charm wise most use 4 pcs with hp, and 7 scs with fhr depending on boots, combined with the spirit can get u to 86% fhr if needed, which i think is rarely needed apart for vs trappers or u could switching bloodfist when needed and fcr rings + amu for thatn needed bp.

    Also modt of the charms used are high res stacking type charms like life/all res or life/10-11 res vs 1 element.
     
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    conor rocks IncGamers Member

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    Oh yea and left click=charge and right click=hammers and vigor?
     
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    charge and hammer on left click. Concentration, vigor and teleport on right click.
     
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    conor rocks IncGamers Member

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    How left click hammers? You can't hotkey that...nevermind just realized you could.
     
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    jake007 IncGamers Member

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    I'm not exactly an expert at this, but to desync well do long charges (across the whole screen in 1 charge) at a random fashion.
     
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    mainaman IncGamers Member

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    dont even need ful screen
    just chrge cast 2-3 hammers charge alil cast 2-3 hammer and so on
    this desynchs you and your hammers and represents an easy and cheap (no need almost no skill) way to win duels.
     
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    jmsplat IncGamers Member

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    A=charge
    S=vigor
    Z=hammer
    X=conc

    Hit AS, charge at least half a screen, hit ZX, repeat, etc. holding down the left mouse button the whole time
     
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    Dennis_KoreanGuy IncGamers Member

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    A Crown of Ages is a much better choice than a shako or a priest's fcr circlet.
     
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    conor rocks IncGamers Member

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    I heard it wasn't because you loose points in vita and life from shako...
     
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    FHR/DR/Res...
     
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    conor rocks IncGamers Member

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    But then you can't have base strenght.
     
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    life has always been overrated in pvp compared to ability to inflict or avoid damage.
     
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    Agree 110%. Base str is overrated. Think about this: CoA gives 30 fhr, which translates into 6x 5 FHR SCs, which take the place of 6x 20 lifers, ~200 life after BO, as opposed to shako's 135 non-BOable
     
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    Whats least damage I should be doing?
     
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    10+k hammers at the least. I favor 11~12 usually, with 2~3 pcombats. 10+ will have no problem killing anything except some barbs, windies, es sorcs.

    btw as jmsplat said, keep obvious skills close together, like hammer/conc and charge vigor. Also it helps if it is closer to the shift button. (A/S/Z/X)
     
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    Yea atm i'm doing 11k-11k without pcombats.
     
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    To clarify things, make sure you stack 200+ total all res.

    Try your best to squeeze in a dungoes over spider, maybe switch out mara's or something. CoA + Enigma + Dungoes should net you max dr unless you get crap dungoes and coa.
     
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    Max DR isn't necessary on a pure Hdin for your main switch, just be able to get 45+ DR and at least 75 FCR for wind druids. Also carry a hel (or um if you have the dex) widow in stash for BvCs and other Hdins. 200 all res is overkill; aim for 105 all res in hell to account for the anya glitch, and carry a 200+ cold and light res pally shield in stash.
     
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    That's what I meant. 200+ all. as in 100 in hell. Though I would get mine atleast 250+. -.-

    I find 200+ LR/CR Shields to be useless, because most elemental users are casters and to catch them you need the fcr from the spirit most of the times.

    Just be sure your gear is flexible enough to wear atleast a wisp without losing any fcr when needed.
     

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