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Discussion in 'Theorycrafting and Statistics' started by Azonian, Feb 3, 2004.
Deadly strike in pvp?
Does it work in pvp? I dont think it does but i need a confirmation
It works, why shouldn't it?
I remember hearing in 1.09 it didnt work in pvp
That's because the Barb's and Assassin's masteries were bugged and gave Critical Strike every time. And if Critical Strike activates Deadly Strike doesn't get a chance to double dmg again, causing quadruple dmg if it worked.
It was very useful for a pally, and it still is. Now in 1.10 the masteries got fixed and barbs and assassins can use Deadly Strike to help their chance for double dmg.
Heh time for a 50k charge pally err is it 100k ...doh..gotta find that botd first though
RTB does not know what hes talking about..bah Deadly doesnt work on PVP
:xeek: Where'd you find that?
I'd be interested to know too... as far as I know it does since it simply doubles your damage.
Tested it yesterday in duelz game. I had over 50% ds and it never triggered..even considering they had dr and such...i never got over 1k pvp damage. If ds ever triggered..i shoulda gotten a 2k hit on a non dr character..which i did fight...all i did was a 1.2k hit at most.. arg
edit: arg grammar freak Oh and my regular charge damage is 4.8k to 5.6k 1h..this includes fanat
Deadly certainly worked in PvP in 1.09, or else the dozens of PvP guides I've readthat extol the virtues of Deadly Strike are seriously messed up
Tommi's very thorough 1.10 damage page makes no mention of DS not working in PvP (while noting PvP differences for things like Crushing Blow and Slows Target).
Nup, can't find any reference to DS no longer working in PvP.
If Azonian thinks he saw it not work himself, perhaps it was not 100% DS and it just didn't activate? Or perhaps he wasn't doing very much physical damage (DS only doubles physical damage)?
 didn't see Azonian's reply before I posted. Hmm. Maybe DS doesnt apply to Charge? Only thing I can think of.
Yeah might be that or just only works for pvm for charge...this would erg me I'm trying to get to theamazonbasin but their site seems to be broken. They have guys reading the code on these sorta things..so guess we'll see what they say
edit: I spent about 4hrs in dueling games. Well..for charge..no ds
edit #2 : I failed to mention I use stone crusher (legendary mallet) 200's -220's in PHYSICAL damage
I seriously wonder where some people get their test results.
Anyways, Deadly Strike AND Critical Strike BOTH work in pvp. They worked in 1.09, and they work in 1.10.
lol, if Deadly Strike didn't work in 1.09, then 2+2 didn't equal 4 in 1.09 either.
nvm this post =P
never put it to the test really.. i see my 18 sin doing a good 3 charged TS deadly hit with her Clegs sword.. im pretty sure it works though..
and why wouldnt it?, maybe with over powered skills like charge ok,
as for people not knowing what there saying... easy killer
However i do NOT know if it works with charge. I have never worked with charge. It does not work on smite. I also do not know if it doubles elemental damage.
I DO know, however, is that if it works on a skill/element, that it works both in PvM and PvP.
It works on berserk for sure.I do around 2.5k max dmg in pvp with zerk after pvp penalty.
Both ds and crit work in pvp and you can also get both in 1.10 now(x4 dmg)
holy xxxx one rumour followed by another. now critical and deadly stack that would make my day
reostedt where do u have this info from?
i did a lot pvp in 1.09. i can confirm that charge worked with deadly strike. i had one hit kills which wouldnt be able without the double damage.
for the moment i would say that deadly strike works
it does not stack with critical strike by very high %
still the opposite to be proven.
Tested pure physical dmg with both highlord(37%dr) and witchwild string(99%ds) setups on 69%crit ama, with normal,multi and ga vs naked char.
With each, 4x dmg triggered, but very rarely, like once in 10 hits or so.
rostedt, what realm do you play on? Actually is there anyone that is readying this and plays on useast ladder? I want to test charge and pvp. PM or reply to this post. My account name is Azon_i
My charger's name is Tooclean
I want to test charge and see if ds does or does not work in pvp with charge
Edit: You need to be a non druid character with over 2k health. I would prefer if you had 3k health with no dr. This just makes calculating raw numbers easier.