David Farland? Salvatore

seripham

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David Farland? Salvatore

Anyone read any of his books? I've read a lot of R. A. Salvatore, Stephen R. Donaldson, David Gemmel, I'm looking for a new author to read. If anyone has read any of these authors, I will tell you that you can pretty much sum up my taste with all of these. If you can suggest a great author with like material I would appreciate it. I've heard good thing about David Farland.
 

BobCox2

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Re: David Farland? Salvatore

Anyone read any of his books? I've read a lot of R. A. Salvatore, Stephen R. Donaldson, David Gemmel, I'm looking for a new author to read. If anyone has read any of these authors, I will tell you that you can pretty much sum up my taste with all of these. If you can suggest a great author with like material I would appreciate it. I've heard good thing about David Farland.
Farland should fit in, if you like him try Orson Scott Card as well.


 

Dutchman

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Re: David Farland? Salvatore

Farland starts off strong with an original set of rules around magic which is quite interesting. unfortunately the series goes to hell in a handbasket with the last book, its almost like he ran out of time to right something decent. Inexplicably he then tacked on another book which was simply godawful and lacked any point whatsoever. From what I understand he has managed yet another one.

Its a shame as the series had great promise, my brother tells me he went broker trying to make the thing into a movie hence the last few books although it got so bad I couldn't even be bothered googling it to find out.

Give Robin Hobb a try with the farseer trilogy. Its a large step above Salvatore without being so complicated that it might turn you off like a Steven Erickson, R Scott Bakker, or George Martin might do. The last three are brilliant but I suggest you work your way up to them if you're used to Salvatore and Gemmel. Nothing wrong with either of those guys, but they are a ways away from literature.

Ray Feist might be to your liking. Cliched in the extreme but enjoyable characters nonetheless and the sojourn into Kelewan with the co-author was solid.

Dutch
 

Eritar

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I'm a fan of Salvatore et al, too, but if you'd like something a bit different, I found The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss to be excellent. It's actually his first novel, so he totally nailed it, IMO. It's not at all an action-fest (though I believe some of that will follow in the next two books) but it kept me turning pages all the same.
 

Dutchman

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Name of the wind was very good and I'm eagerly awaiting the sequel.... in 2 more years

I'd suggest sticking to what's finished or least thousands of pages in, particularly since if your heights of fantasy is Salvatore there is a lot out there for you :)

Dutch
 

seripham

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A fan of Salvatore yes, Gemmel yes, but by know means would I consider them "DEEP" authors. Salvatore more so than Gemmell but nat as much As S R Donaldson, Robert Jordan or even Tolkien especially in The Simirillian wich I was way too young to appreciate when I read. I did not have the brain capacity for a book like that at 12 years old or 15 or 18 for that matter. But any way thanks for the help I'll check em out.
 

Dondrei

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Ray Feist might be to your liking. Cliched in the extreme but enjoyable characters nonetheless and the sojourn into Kelewan with the co-author was solid.
You mean Janny Wurts or James Clavell?

But yeah, Feist is very readable (at least until you realize that every chapter he has ever written starts the exact same way). He works with very much stock-standard fantasy (except for the occasional strange tangent like Merchant Prince) but still makes it entertaining.



 

Amra

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...if you're used to Salvatore and Gemmel. Nothing wrong with either of those guys, but they are a ways away from literature.
Salvatore was always a bit mindless reading for me. I do have a lot of his books in hardcover though.

No one mentioned Terry Brooks yet? Still fairly light reading but I found them entertaining as a lad.



 

Ariadne

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Salvatore was always a bit mindless reading for me. I do have a lot of his books in hardcover though.

No one mentioned Terry Brooks yet? Still fairly light reading but I found them entertaining as a lad.
I was never a lad but I did read Terry Brooks when I was very very young.



 

Sokar Rostau

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Salvatore should have his eyes gouged out with a rusty spoon for inflicting Drizzt on the world. What makes it worse is that that Drow **** was one of the few established characters to live through the Spellplague just so we can hear more about him in the 4e setting.

That's another way of saying that a new Drizzt book is coming out in the near future.

Also, I loved Eddings' Elenium and Tamuli series'.
 

Ariadne

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Salvatore should have his eyes gouged out with a rusty spoon for inflicting Drizzt on the world. What makes it worse is that that Drow **** was one of the few established characters to live through the Spellplague just so we can hear more about him in the 4e setting.

That's another way of saying that a new Drizzt book is coming out in the near future.

Also, I loved Eddings' Elenium and Tamuli series'.
I read Belgarion and Mallorean first, and Elenium and Tamuli is almost an exact copy. Look at the maps! It's the same old gods get replaced by new gods, first series in countries in the west, second series in countries in the east.
They're fun to read, very relaxing, enjoyable, but repetitive.



 

Majaii

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This series is not done yet, but the Codex Alera books by Jim Butcher are excellent. You could also try the Black Magician Trilogy by Trudi Canavan, they are not bad. I might not be the best to comment though, since I don't really like salvatore, and haven't read gemmel or farland.
 

Amra

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Salvatore should have his eyes gouged out with a rusty spoon for inflicting Drizzt on the world. What makes it worse is that that Drow **** was one of the few established characters to live through the Spellplague just so we can hear more about him in the 4e setting.
I stopped reading about Drizzt about 12 years ago.

I'm so out of the loop. Did they destroy the world? What happened to Waterdeep?



 

Sokar Rostau

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I can't remember exactly what happens

Here's some choice extracts from The Grand History of the Realms

1375 Eleint 30: A long, rolling earthquake strikes Waterdeep shortly after
dawn. The city sustains little physical damage, but a number of people across
the city are struck by fearsome mental visions of a screaming, bearded man
whose eyes blaze with rage, sorrow, and swimming stars—Halaster [1369],
the Mad Mage of Undermountain. People of arcane talent struck by the
visions also report scenes of destruction in the vast maze: pillars cracking and
tumbling, rifts and chasms opening up, and surging explosions of blue-white
sparks. It soon becomes clear that Halaster destroyed himself while attempting
a ritual of tremendous power, and in the moment of his death hurled
desperate visions and mysterious compulsions to adventurers and persons of
magical power throughout Faerûn.
1375 Nightal 20: Lolth and Eilistraee battle to the death in a divine game
of sava, with the fate of the drow hanging in the balance. A Darksong
Knight in service to Eilistraee slays Selvetarm, Champion of Lolth, with an
artifact known as the Crescent Blade. Drow followers of Vhaeraun employ
High Magic for the first time since the Descent. They succeed in opening a
portal to Eilistraee’s realm, which the Masked Lord employs in an attempt
to assassinate his sister. The effort backfires, as Eilistraee kills her brother
instead. The Church of Vhaeraun is absorbed into the Church of Eilistraee.
The Church of Selvetarm is absorbed into the Church of Lolth.
1384 Year of the Three Streams Blooded
Siamorphe quarrels with Tyr when the deities take different sides in a
clash between Tethyrian and Calimsh!te forces. She removes herself from
the House of the Triad and joins Sune’s court in Brightwater. Tyr sends
Helm to plead his case with Sune. The goddess of love suggests a marriage
between Tyr and Tymora to set the celestial planes in balance again. Helm
conveys Sune’s suggestion to Tyr, and begins to chaperone a chaste courtship
between Tyr and Tymora. Strange and fateful misunderstandings lead to the
accusation that Helm has stolen Tymora’s heart while conveying the gifts
and sentiments of Tyr. A strict interpretation of his own ideals forces Tyr
to challenge Helm, and Helm is obliged by his own ideals to meet the challenge.
The two gods do battle, and Tyr slays Helm before the deities come
to their senses. Heartbroken, Tymora accompanies Tyr back to the House
of the Triad. Though nothing can be proved, the gods sense the hand of
Cyric in Helm’s death.
— With the Triad broken because of Helm’s death, Ilmater chooses to remove
his domain from the House of the Triad. He reestablishes his celestial realm
in Brightwater at Sune’s invitation.

1385 DR Year of Blue Fire
Unthinkable catastrophe ensues when Cyric, aided and abetted by Shar, murders
Mystra in Dweomerheart. The plane itself disintegrates at once, destroying
Savras and sending the gods Azuth and Velsharoon reeling into the endless
Astral Plane. Without Mystra to govern the Weave, magic bursts its bonds
all across Faerûn and the surrounding planes and runs wild. In Faerûn, this
event is known as the Spellplague. Thousands of mages are driven insane or
destroyed, and the very substance of the world becomes mutable beneath veils
of azure fire that dance across the skies by night or by day.
Many planes are shifted or destroyed as well. Only greater deities prove
strong enough to maintain their realms against the resultant chaos. Tyr,
Lathander, and Sune move against Cyric and successfully imprison the Black
Sun in his Supreme Throne, under a sentence of house arrest to last one
thousand years.
Sages in centuries to come mark the Weave’s destruction in the Year of
Blue Fire as the end of the old world, and the terrible beginning of the new.
4e is set around a century after the Spellplague. FR is now essentially a post-apocalyptic setting apparently more closely resembling Eberron than FR. Entire nations have disappeared to be replaced by evil infested wilderness separating the few remaining cities and towns from each other. IIRC Shar and Sune are pretty much all that remain of the old pantheon.
 
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