Customization

[Death_of_Angels]

Customization

So I was checking DIII.net for the first time in a while, and very first thing I saw slightly got on my nerves. "the barbarian is a broken man."

Basically, here's my beef. The characters in Diablo 3 are going to be very customizable in appearence, so why do people keep referring to the wizard as a "19-year-old girl" or the barbarian as "the one from DII" ? Are people forgetting that there is no one character for each class in this game, rather many (potentially thousands?) of unique characters who are young and old, male and female, and have a wide variety of other features that will enable the type of customization that Blizzard has repeatedly said it's shooting for, and that all of the players want?

So why are people so stuck on the fact that there is only one old but jacked looking barbarian, a cocky young girl wizard, and sort of a drugged out, jungle hobo witch doctor (who is totally bad a** btw)?

Is it because that's what Blizzard is showing us and you guys can't picture anything else ( with the exception of few and far between art posts of outside-the-box sort of things)? C'mon, you guys are more creative than that.

 

[Putz]

Re: Customization

When/where did they say characters would be customizable?

The only word I've read is that the classes are not gender specific and that there will be a male and female of each class.

 

[nEgativezEro]

Re: Customization

What are you talking about? You can be male or female. That's the only option you have on changing your character per class.

 

[Telzen]

Re: Customization

I don't think you've ever played a Diablo game. You are not creating an avatar for yourself and playing it. You are playing a premade class that has its own look and personality. Especially in D3, since your character talks back to npcs and lets their personality show through a lot.

 

[Kiroptus]

Re: Customization

You dont pick classes in Diablo, you pick characters.

Of which are already defined on their personality, origin, culture and look. All you can control is how their skills work and their names. It was always like that but some people believe that Diablo had deep and intricate RPG elements but no it never had.

 

[stillman]

Re: Customization

I totally see his point though. What this boils down to is Blizzard wants the player to feel like 'the one and only hero', THE barb who killed diablo. The problem is, as the OP said, there are many, many barbs. For those of us playing on bnet, there are thousands of them. In your d3 game there can be 4 barbs in your party, right there on the screen with you. Which one is this 'one and only hero?' How does Blizzard explain that?

Well, they don't.

And that sucks. Thousands of barbs, yet supposedly my barb is the only barb. And with wizards, I guess there are thousands of these 19 year old wizard rebels. Yep, it's a revolution people. THAT many wizards, all 19 years old btw, have deviated and become show offs. Hmmm...if the numbrs of 19 year old rebels are in the tens of thousands as seen on bnet, then I guess the obedient wizards must number in the millions??? Is Sanctuaty that populated?

And can we really ignore the thousands of other players on bnet since we're in a 4 max player game? Well...then who traded me all this stuff I'm wearing? I am an old barb, the one who killed diablo, and each piece of gear I wear was traded from other old barbs, the ones who killed diablo. See the problem here?

So one way to fix this is for Blizzard to rig the story such that there really are thousands of barbs, many were killed in d2, it was a group effort to win. There was not just one amazon and necro hero, but many. Thousands. All the wizards are not 19, but are just 'young' rebels who broke away. But the way Blizzard does it is they say there is really only one and we're supposed to pretent the other wizards on our screen don't exist. Come on, how can all 4 be age 19? Blizzard should leave some room for players' imaginations and differences.

 

[Kiroptus]

Re: Customization

All characters are unique, there is only one barbarian, one wizard, the wd and the other two. Same as D2 and Diablo 1, in fact in D1 I believe Blood Raven is the Rogue from D1, The sorceror is the summoner and The warrior is Diablo himself as the corrupted hero AKA Dark wanderer.

Yes its true that we can have various barbarians and wizards at the same game but thats a design convenience for the players but storywise there is only one barbarian who defeated diablo, one wizard who is an arrogant young rebel and one Witch doctor. Also what happens in the realm statistics is irreleavant as the game world just exists when the someone creates a game, so the max we can have is 5 of the same characters (or whatever the max party number is in D3)

Blizzard doesnt need to explain the apperance of cloned characters because its just what it is, a convenience for the players, if they wanted they could make so just one of each character can join the game but it would be way too annoying.

I dont see whats the problem with that, I would rather have defined characters with personalities than a soulless empty avatar that is supposed to "reflect your personality" like MMOs and RPGs with silent protagonists have. I have a Shaman and a Rogue in WoW and their personality is null because of that limitation, in Diablo its true we will have cloned characters but its much better that way because the character can be more involved with the story, showing their personality, knowledge, culture, etc... even if there are many like them but that certainly we can pass on.

And Diablo 2 was just like that. Every single character was the same and had the same personality.

 

[CaptainDingo]

Re: Customization

why do people keep referring to (...) the barbarian as "the one from DII"

...Maybe you missed something, but Blizzard acknowledged long ago that it IS the Barbarian from Diablo 2.

So that's why they keep saying it. Because he is. Fact.

 

[GuardianHadriel]

Re: Customization

Go play WoW, puny little stupid boy

 

[konfeta]

Re: Customization

And that sucks. Thousands of barbs, yet supposedly my barb is the only barb. And with wizards, I guess there are thousands of these 19 year old wizard rebels. Yep, it's a revolution people. THAT many wizards, all 19 years old btw, have deviated and become show offs. Hmmm...if the numbrs of 19 year old rebels are in the tens of thousands as seen on bnet, then I guess the obedient wizards must number in the millions??? Is Sanctuaty that populated?

It's called gameplay and story segregation. A neccessity for almost every game in existence. Just because you see it in game doesn't make it story canon. Game plots would be a physical impossibility if it wasn't for this trope.

 

[Technomancer]

Re: Customization

One thing people miss is that the stories for all the Diablo games are based on SINGLE PLAYER. They're not MMOs, they're single player action RPGs with multiplayer support. I've heard rumors too that some of the other D2 characters like the Necro may show up somewhere too as NPCs. Personally, games with generic 'avatars' that have no built in story or background get on my nerves, so this suits me just fine.

 

[Taddl]

Re: Customization

One thing people miss is that the stories for all the Diablo games are based on SINGLE PLAYER. They're not MMOs, they're single player action RPGs with multiplayer support. I've heard rumors too that some of the other D2 characters like the Necro may show up somewhere too as NPCs. Personally, games with generic 'avatars' that have no built in story or background get on my nerves, so this suits me just fine.

well its not a rumor that necros will show up as npcs, its been said in an interview so its a fact i doubt that its THE necromancer from d2 (cause i think its zayl^^) but it definetly is one of them

All characters are unique, there is only one barbarian, one wizard, the wd and the other two. Same as D2 and Diablo 1, in fact in D1 I believe Blood Raven is the Rogue from D1, The sorceror is the summoner and The warrior is Diablo himself as the corrupted hero AKA Dark wanderer.

nonsense...
the summoner is a demon horazon summoned in order to watch over his arcane sanctuary... it cant even be that he summoned the dead d1 sorcerer cause horazon and his brother only summoned daemons, not undead...

its most likely that blizzard cut 2 of the d1 characters out of the lore, cause it was only 1 killing tyrano saurus diablo... that means they both were some wannabe heros who diead trying to kill dia or they just never existet... either way they couldnt have shown up in d2...

 

[Starving_Poet]

Re: Customization

its most likely that blizzard cut 2 of the d1 characters out of the lore, cause it was only 1 killing tyrano saurus diablo... that means they both were some wannabe heros who diead trying to kill dia or they just never existet... either way they couldnt have shown up in d2...

Exactly, only 1 could have been corrupted by Diablo's Soulstone so they picked the warrior. In terms of Diablo II's storyline, the others are irrelevant. It could as easily have been the Sorcerer or the Rogue, but it wasn't. It's not deep or mystical, or blah blah whatever.

And there are 1,000 Barbarians, but this one is mine!