Critical Strike: to max or not to max?

CaimDark

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Critical Strike: to max or not to max?

Here I go again, sorry for bothering you guys with so many "noobish" questions, but I've never played an amazon in my life, and know nothing about it.

I have ten points in CS, and +4 from gear. I've reached that point where every skill point spent wields only 1 extra% point. So I'm undecided... is it worth maxing it? Or is it too little benefit for too many skill points and I should spend them elsewhere?
 

YogiRat

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Don't put another point into CS, I think you realize this already.:wink3: The diminishing returns are far too great. 6-8 points is the norm, but it's not like you've crippled yourself by putting a couple extra points there. Carry on!:grin:
 

WrongdayJ

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No mas

I agree with Yogi- No need to go any further with it. Skill points are WAY to valuable elsewhere to only get 1% from CS. I'd try getting any additional points from +skill items.
 

Leohappy

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i tend to stop at 65% (lvl 16 i think-this is with +skills included)
after that you actually need two pts to advance the skill by 1% which is really pointless

ps: remember, damage is king when it comes to bowzons so crit strike definitely cannot be neglected here
 

WrongdayJ

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Hang on a second. . .

I was of the belief that the game checks for chance of critical strike, and if it hits, then it does not check for deadly strike. But if the critical strike fails, then it still could check for chance of deadly strike. So the one wouldn't make the other inefficient, would it? The chance to hit % doesn't change just because you have a chance for both conditions, right?

In other words, you can't have both at the same time, but either could happen on their own.

Please someone correct me if I am mistaken as I'm not 100% sure on this one.
 

KremBanan

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Standard for PvM is to have Critical Strike at lvl 16 after +skills. Afterwards the returns are deminishing for each skill.
 

Yossarian

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WrongdayJ said:
Hang on a second. . .

I was of the belief that the game checks for chance of critical strike, and if it hits, then it does not check for deadly strike. But if the critical strike fails, then it still could check for chance of deadly strike. So the one wouldn't make the other inefficient, would it? The chance to hit % doesn't change just because you have a chance for both conditions, right?

In other words, you can't have both at the same time, but either could happen on their own.

Please someone correct me if I am mistaken as I'm not 100% sure on this one.
That is correct sir. Each item with DS is checked independantly like CS. First CS is checked, then your Highlords DS, then your Gores DS (btw you should wear war travs not gores usually). SO you don't have a 65% chance of CS and a 45% for DS or a 100% DS. You have 65% then a 30% then 15%.
 

KremBanan

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I belive DS stacks, this means you have 45 DS. And not 30+15.
(In my experience Gores are better for high damage bowazons)
 

Perfect Hatred

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CaimDark said:
Here I go again, sorry for bothering you guys with so many "noobish" questions, but I've never played an amazon in my life, and know nothing about it.

I have ten points in CS, and +4 from gear. I've reached that point where every skill point spent wields only 1 extra% point. So I'm undecided... is it worth maxing it? Or is it too little benefit for too many skill points and I should spend them elsewhere?
I would advice stopping at level 24 when chance is 71%, after thats its pointless (since 3 skill points required to get +1%) but before its a good investment since its the only skill that can give you damage and thats what a bowazon is all about. What other skills can make you kill monsters faster? (especially if you have ITD with faith and dont need penetrate)
 

Leohappy

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Perfect Hatred said:
I would advice stopping at level 24 when chance is 71%, after thats its pointless (since 3 skill points required to get +1%) but before its a good investment since its the only skill that can give you damage and thats what a bowazon is all about. What other skills can make you kill monsters faster? (especially if you have ITD with faith and dont need penetrate)
that's certainly a possibility but i prefer to leave it at 65% and then use hl to bump it to ~78%
 

Perfect Hatred

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Leohappy said:
that's certainly a possibility but i prefer to leave it at 65% and then use hl to bump it to ~78%
Well I take it you use nosferatus coil rather than razortail as your belt. If so I can understand you have a shortage of skill points and its probably a better idea to boost pierce% rather than maxing out CS. However I find its a better idea vs monsters to boost CS rather than putting points into avoid/evade/dodge (1 point wonders with + skills).
 

Leohappy

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Perfect Hatred said:
Well I take it you use nosferatus coil rather than razortail as your belt. If so I can understand you have a shortage of skill points and its probably a better idea to boost pierce% rather than maxing out CS. However I find its a better idea vs monsters to boost CS rather than putting points into avoid/evade/dodge (1 point wonders with + skills).
razortail has no ias so it's not really a viable option for me (i use gmb faith)
 
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