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Cresent moon any good?

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  1. Hypnectic

    Hypnectic IncGamers Member

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    Cresent moon any good?

    Crestent Moon? any good for summoner?
    I was thinking of making this runeword for my summoner, just so he casts static field and i can kill easier and my skellies and revies dont have to do much work . Is this a worthhile investment or should i keep him using the Spire of Honor?

    Hyp.
     
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    JoJeck IncGamers Member

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    A level 13 Static Field is a powerful effect and will help your skellies get the first corpse but the 7% chance is fairly low even with ITD.
     
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    Mad Mantis D2/3 Necromancer & Witch Doctor Moderator

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    And you will need to invest in BA to be able to survive the melee.
     
  4. Hypnectic

    Hypnectic IncGamers Member

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    your missing the point...

    I want to make for my merc, I kill any and everything with ease, My bonemancer is godly, he rips thru helll without any problems.....ever.
    But, I want my merc to have the %chance to cast static field to make it easier for him to kill monsters. WHAT IM ASKING is it worth it to waste an UM rune on this???

    ps. Mantis i have very strong BA and Cta for hp/mana so thats not a problem :clap:
    HyP.
     
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    Mad Mantis D2/3 Necromancer & Witch Doctor Moderator

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    It is a pretty good weapon for your Merc. I can't tell you if it is worth wasting an Um on, because I don't know what other items you have/can get.
     
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    Make sure you make it on an eth weapon, elite if possible. Lets not forget that theoretically that 7% is 21% because jab hits 3 times
     
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    Was wondering what weapon would be best for it in fact anyone know?

    Got an eth giant thresher
     
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    k

    well i was thinking an ethereal Cryptic axe if i can find one.
    jab hits 3x? yummy. Well ill make it when i find the axe.

    his gear ATM.

    - .08 gaze 8/8/25 (40% ed jewel + 15 max dmg)

    - Ethereal Shaftstop (Pul'd)

    - Artioc's Needle (Amn'd)

    He is basically Pimped out. He dies only from Thorns Curse or when I duel.

    HyP.
     
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    ummm...actually its not. I believe each hit is calculated independantly of the other hits...

    so the first hit, there is a 7% chance---the second--also a 7% chance. The thrid--also a 7% chance.

    The odds do not add up per number of hits. kind of like if you flip a coin, and you want it to land heads. If you flip it twice, are the odds 100% that it will land heads?--
     
  10. Mad Mantis

    Mad Mantis D2/3 Necromancer & Witch Doctor Moderator

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    Welcome Newcomer to The Darkness. Grab a brew :drink: and feel free to raise some corpses.

    You are totally correct.
     
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    Thanks---Thanks...glad to be here...glad to have a beer...
     
  12. Hypnectic

    Hypnectic IncGamers Member

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    Omg Probability !!!

    I know its only 7% each hit, but if he hits 3x in a row thats 21%
    7+7+7 = 21 :scratch:

    HyP. :lol:
     
  13. Mad Mantis

    Mad Mantis D2/3 Necromancer & Witch Doctor Moderator

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    Actually the chance to strike of Static three times in a row would be (0.07)^3 = 0.000343 which is 0.0343%
     
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    Probability isn't done like that.

    i don't have the time currently to fish through math book//notes, but I assure you it is doen differently.

    ~Kbob
     
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    Just as a heads up, you should say that it's for your merc in the post. Cause how it reads is like your necro uses Spire of Honor

    And Kbob I think MM got it right
     
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    Well, the chance of Static Field happening at least once out of the three hits is equal to 100% minus the chance that it never happens in all three hits.

    The chance that it doesn't happen in any given hit is 93% (0.93). The chance that it doesn't happen in three consecutive hits is 0.93^3, or 0.804357.

    So the chance that it does happen, at least once, is 1.0 - 0.804357, or 0.195643, or about 19.6%.

    [Edit: Note that overall you will get an average of 0.21 statics per jab. The difference is because while there's a 19.6% chance that it happens, that chance includes the possibility that it could happen more than once. I won't go into all the math, but the probabilities break down as follows:

    Three statics: 0.0343%
    Two statics: 1.3671%
    One static: 18.1629%
    No static: 80.4357%]
     
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    Mantis, I think he meant that if the merc hits 3 times, there's a 21% chance that static will go off at least once... in that case, yes, he's correct. Your calculation is that he'll fire off 3 static fields on 3 consecutive hits.
     
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    ok thnx guys

    So im thinking Cresent moon isn't worth it. I might just switch to a rogue merc. She would do more damage and she would fire from a distance, which would be helpful in duels. :cheesy: cheesey I know.

    Any suggestions to gear for a rogue merc? any1?

    my build would be as follows:

    - Windforce (40% ed +15 max dmg.)
    - 60% IAS armor
    - and Ondals almighty for % chance to cast weaken. or maybe...i dunno help!

    HyP.
     
  19. Chek

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    Dausuul, I'm getting you get that 0.21 statics per jab by
    0.000343*3+0.013671*2+0.181629*1 = 0.21
    Am I correct?
    Why does this 0.21 correspond to the faulty 21% that the others are calculating?
     
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    Actually the adding up % method (i.e. 7*3). although not accurate, is decent as a estimate for cases where % for an instance is very low, like <10%.

    btw I think the calculations are wrong?

    it's 1-(chance of no static at all) = 1- 0.93^3, whether it casts once, twice or three times is already factored into the ans.
     

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