Conviction can cancel Uber Meph's Conviction?

[Pherdnut]

Conviction can cancel Uber Meph's Conviction?

Was reading this over at AB. Apparently when you have a higher level conviction it cancels out monster conviction for the paladin. Some kind of a weird fluke where the aura doesn't differentiate between friendly and hostile conviction for purposes of overpowering it.

If this is true, it could make for some interesting avenger/zealer solo builds vs. the ubers.

 

[RTB]

Correct, but AFAIK the exact Slvl of UberMeph's Conviction isn't known yet.

 

[uNxHiTMaN]

My res vs the ubers (on my hammerdin) was 75 all....

Here are the stuffs that I used (Which Adds up resistances).

Maras (22)
Zaka p diamond (69)
All anya quests (30)?
Grand charm of res (15 n 13)
Large Charm of res (8)
wizspike (75)
Kiras Guardian (65)
2-3 SCs of resists (maybe) - Negligeable

SWAPPING the Kiras for my Topazed Shako got my res down varying from 20-40 ....

Maybe someone can extrapolate the conviction aura of uber meph from this data?

 

[Kalian]

If I did my math right, that gives an slvl 9-14 conviction aura for uber meph, depending on exactly what your resists were. The change in defense could also be used, though a little more tricky.

 

[krischan]

Correct, but AFAIK the exact Slvl of UberMeph's Conviction isn't known yet.

According to AS (which isn't correct everywhere, as we all know), conviction bosses have a mlvl/4 aura, i.e. L110/4 = L27 = -160% res, but I heard from somebody who took the time to check his character screen while fighting Ãœber Meph that it's just -125% which is L20. Perhaps it's capped at that point.

 

[RTB]

I've heard varying amount, one even above the usual cap for Conviction. It is possible that he has a variable Slvl, which is determined when he spawns.

 

[monte cristo]

Still.. A low lvl Salvation works the same way as high level conviction would in this case.

 

[lonnie913]

Still.. A low lvl Salvation works the same way as high level conviction would in this case.

except that an overriding conviction would decrease his resistances and defense substantially. important in a fight.

 

[monte cristo]

Well.. If you have salvation, you're a paladin. If you are a paladin, you have smite. Smite ignores AR =) And what pally doesn't have even 1pt in smite.. its a prereq to holy shield after all.

If you're a hammerdin, lowering resistances and defense does you no good.

And if you're a vengeance pally or something else.. Well.. That's an interesting way to beat tristram. Might be slow but still possible.

 

[lonnie913]

Well.. If you have salvation, you're a paladin. If you are a paladin, you have smite. Smite ignores AR =) And what pally doesn't have even 1pt in smite.. its a prereq to holy shield after all.

If you're a hammerdin, lowering resistances and defense does you no good.

And if you're a vengeance pally or something else.. Well.. That's an interesting way to beat tristram. Might be slow but still possible.

well i assumed one would be in a party. i dont yet a character that can solo that level. ive heard some do, however.

 

[helvete]

Well, determining mephs conviction level should be fairly easy... Just stack resists to a known amount (even way above the cap) and see how much his conviction lowers them. Do it multiple times to see if the aura is variable.

Also using high level conviction against them would make certain sorceress builds viable in tristram (I think) because whatever not already immune will have like -51 or less resistance with slvl 25 conviction...

EDIT: Two single tree sorcs and two paladins perhaps? Conviction and salvation.

 

[Rekk_Dalton]

The best char i've seen for soloing tristram so far has been a dreamer, paladin using dual dreams, conviction aura, and zeal w/ some crushing blow.

 

[krischan]

If conviction only counters it for the originator of the aura, it's not worth it IMO, except for survival in a team. Assuming we talk about a zealer or smiter, that's a character who can solo Tristram with the right equipment (probably without any stuff worth HRs). In that case it's better to get massive excess resists from equipment, lots of speed and %ed from e.g. fanaticism, lots of DR and CB and some lifetap source, so he can smite the bosses to death with no big problems.