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Concentrate barb viable in pvp? share your experience :D i

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  1. k3mikal

    k3mikal IncGamers Member

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    Concentrate barb viable in pvp? share your experience :D

    hello, i just wanted to know if concentrate actually kills in pvp, and whether its better than whirlwind, what are the pros and cons ? thx in advance.
     
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    Ehein IncGamers Member

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    well it depends, melee pvp its very viable with their huge life and def from iron skin and war crys, although top notch zealots will beat you. However in pubbie duels they cant do too great vs casters.
     
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    No. Whirlwind is 8374837837 times better.
     
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    ww>zerk>frenzy>doubleswing>leapattack>doublethrow>bash>stun>conc
     
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    Lol not really =)
    Conc is better than anything except ww since it's uninterruptable.
    Damn I wish zerk was too, would have been SO much easier to use on necs.......
     
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    no im right, ur wrong.
    get over it :lol:

    but really, zerk>conc.
    think about it, im right
     
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    NEVER =)

    Only vs some chars (im-necs and sorcs who cant put you in hit-recovery, perhaps amazons too), I cant think of any other duel I'd prefer zerk over conc. Both have the same pathetic slow swing, and while zerk does a bit more damage it's almost impossible to land a hit since you'll get interrupted all the time. Concbarbs>>>>>>>zerkers ^^

    Then again, ww makes conc obsolete while zerk still has some uses...
     
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    conc > fists :(
     
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    ww is better than conc at everything.
     
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    my point is, ww beats all bascially, if u can conc something u can prolly do the same with wwing em. but sometimes u can only zerk and it does alot more than conc so, again im right.
     
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    I have a conc barb with 1 point in ww (becomes lvl 11 after cry and with gear). It is quite effective in both PvM and PvP.
     
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    This thread was about conc as the main attack. how many matchups would you prefer to use zerk over conc?
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    conc > zerk vs ww.
    zerk > conc vs sorcs
    etc etc.
    i didnt count all the matchups together but i think conc has the majority.
     
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    thanks for the info guys, really helped. made me reconsider making a conc pvp barb since there arent many opinions in favor of it.
    but it seems that the uniterrupted attack is the major advantage of it.
    seems like i'll have to make a ww barb with conc as a secondary aura.


    really? thats great! can you please tell me more? like what characters you can kill and which do u use more often ww or conc. thx a lot.
     
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    As people already have said, there is NO situation EVER when conc is better than ww. Ww is also uninterruptable, it attacks more than twice as fast etc etc.
    Make a pure wwbarb, there is no reason not to...
     
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    Um... you forget that conc can give you some stupid high def. Comparable/higher than an exile pally, although only while concing, and it's uninterruptible. Meaning conc > ww when facing zealots, and possibly better vs WW if you have a range advantage and can shift+conc, but other than that, WW gets off more hits and is faster to use, not to mention is better at stunlocking casters. Keep in mind that there's better ways of owning zealots than a conc barb anyway, so why even bother?
     
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    If your dueling alot of Zealots and stuff, conc is the way to go. But, if you like to duel vs sorcs and stuff, go ww. I have a conc barb now, with 1 in ww, and it fares well vs ww'rs, and i get the conc bonus's for zealots and such, heh. Its more a preference thing.
     
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    Well, the 1 point in ww allows me to clean very crowded areas in PvM much faster than pure conc build. At the same time, in PvP I can ww against other barbs and sometimes against other mellee chars. Casters use to die in 1 (or maybe 2) conc hits (altough here zerk works quite well too, I also have 1 point in it and use it sometimes). One interesting point in that build is that I get more than 40k def when using conc, making me hard to hit for most mellee enemies. I have killed many opponents from all classes (mostly in public games) but I am far from having done any exaustive duel test! And, of course, I have died many times too...
     
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    um, completely wrong.
    conc is not better vs zealots
    conc cannot beat ww period
    range advantage? plz, anyone worth dueling uses range 3, a range 5 no shield barb could prolly beat conc too.

    defense is overrated, you dont really need it on a ww barb, cept maybe vs other ww barbs.
    you wont beat a decent ww barb with 1 point ww.
     
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    there are three reasons why u should use conc:

    1) you get orgasms from seeing swing attacks

    2) you dont want to obliterate other melee characters so fast they leave game and dont want to play with u anymore.

    3) you are stupid.
     
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    lol :D

    about the high def aeonis mentioned, isnt it useful when wielding double weapons? afaik when there is no shield defence is the factor determining the block, did any of you find this any useful ? and is it useful against spells or just against melee?


    might be a matter of prefernce indeed, or maybe am just stupid as blobs said. i want to make a conc barb to beat my brother's smiter, i've read that barbs with extremly high defence rating are one of the characters that could beat a good smiter using 'berber' coa/enigma/exile/grief/verdungo etc. perhaps anyone know of other characters effective against smiters? whats the benefit of whirlwind over concentrate against smiters?

    didnt know that thanks!
     
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