Comment on my Meteorb sorc.

[arBitur]

Comment on my Meteorb sorc.

Hi, well i just made a Light soso and got it to level 81 and it SUCKED, ima make a new build and ive already tried Blizzard and Frozen orb MFers and their really nice it's just that i want to try something that are capable of running more than just andy (my last soso's died in 5 seconds when trying to get to meph, i hate those stupid small murder dolls..), ive seen and read about Meteorbers that are capable of Nihla, pindle, baal and meph+andy runs in game which IMO are pretty nice and now i calced on d2items.com and found a pretty nice build, i would like that people comment on this sorc and give me advice cause im tired of making new characters all the time :doh:

*'-SKILLS-'*

16 Frozen orb (DMG: 439-460 with +13 skills included)
10 Cold Mastery
6 Ice bolt

(IMO the FO are too weak and i want it to do more dmg but i can't find a way to do it without losing lots of meteor dmg, should i get a 5-5 cold die facet for my ocu then get cold skillers?)

20 Meteor (DMG: 12054-12580 with +13 skills included)
20 Fireball (DMG: 5065-5545 with +13 skill included)
13 Fire mastery


*'-GEAR-'*

WEAPON: Oculus (socketed but im trying to get a 5-4 cold die facet for it)
SHIELD: Spirit (30 FCR)
HEAD: Shako with Ptopaz (i got one with Um too, what shud i use??)
BODY: Tal arm with Ptopaz (921 def and 112 MF)
BELT: Tal belt
GLOVES: Frostburns (mana ftw)
BOOTS: Waterwalk (60 something +life)
RING1: Nagelring (22 mf :crazyeyes
RING2: none (sold SoJ for ist+mal)
AMULET: Tal amu
SWITCH: none if i press the switch button the screen turns blue and the computer restarts, i really want to swear right now.. :banghead:
CHARMS: Soso T 16/17-11 and im trying to buy a low anni for mal.

*'-ATTRIBUTES-'*

STR: enough for gear, about 140-150 and the gear will get me enough for spirit.
DEX: none
VIT: rest
ENERGY: i might sink some points here, like 10-15 - depends :yes:



*'-MERC-'*

WEP: Eth cv Insight: lvl 14 medi aura and about 750 max dmg.
HEAD: Tal mask (10% life steal and some res ftw)
BODY: Leviathan (any other ideas??)




well thats my sorc, feel free to comment and give me ideas if u want to tip me about another build send a link, im poor so nothing costy! :alright:

EDIT1: i totally forgot to tell! im ladder playing on Europe ^^

 

[guface]

Re: Comment on my Meteorb sorc.

a meteororb is actually a FIRE sorc with a backup in cold. You only need to spend 25-30 pts in cold and maxing orb and getting 17 soft points in CM is what you're aiming for.

6 Ice bolt - I'd rethink this bit.

WEAPON: Oculus (socketed but im trying to get a 5-4 cold die facet for it) - I'd change this to a fire rbf. Remember every pt in cold mast is -5%. Unless you get doom or HoJ you're not getting -ve fire resists. The higher the monster;s fire resists, the more this will help. With 1 -5 fire rbf, and a 95% fire resist monster, the facet doubles your damage with a fireball.

13 Fire mastery - I'd max firebaal and meteor first and find which skill you like more. If you like FB more - max firebolt. If you like meteor more and are gonna use it a lot more, max firemastery.

GLOVES: Frostburns (mana ftw) - how about trang's or magefist ftw? And since this is a mf sorc, chance guards? Extra mana doesnt really help that much when you have 500+% mana regen with insight.

ENERGY: i might sink some points here, like 10-15 - depends Read above. Energy is useless if you plan the char well and have insight. Do NOT wait until eth CV - thats 210 str and realistically you need to wait till around lvl 65 - 70 merc (where you can find 50 str in form of items like andy and pammd duriels) A merc with 210 natural strength needs around level 96. I stuck mine in a partizan. I would also recommend a CA or bec de corbin. In a lower polearm the merc can use it at level 29 (min level for insight)

Rings - Id get at least one raven. CBF is invaluable. Nagel is pretty crap too, try to find a magic one with resists and decent mf (eg garnet ring of fortune etc)

Spirit shield - you'll have to get some fire resists like small charms. Also consider something else for a 75% block sorc which i prefer for mf teleporting. Upped viscer and stormshield are better imo. The debate rages though.

Merc armor - if a def merc, use ebugged runeword armor. Smoke, lionheart and fortitude if you can afford.

 

[MagpieLee]

Re: Comment on my Meteorb sorc.

firstly...you shouldn't advertise other websites here...
secondly...LOL you can't switch weapons loool.

ok. I would recommend not going for Ice Bolt - simply because its a disgrace to call itself a synergy (2% each point? 12% total damage to your FO?). Don't do it.

I would drop the Waterwalks and go for War Travellers - for the MF and the 10 str...
which will mean you can probably get away with less base str as you will get an anni which will add at least 10 str (156 needed, -10, -10 =136str, - your torch 16 = 120 str!) you can then plunge some of those points into vit. Btw, don't put any points in Energy - use them in vitality. You need lotsa HP to survive those dolls at Meph.

FCR - with your set up you've got only 90. You should switch your frostburns to Magefists to get 110 which is enough for the 105 FCR BP and you can telefaster with this.

Your other ring could be another Nagels if you want more MF. I don't think you need CBF from ravens because being chilled doesn't affect your casting rate.

You could switch to chance guards and use two FCR rings but you will lose more MF this way (unless you have absolutely crap Nagels and a high chance guards). I've gone for Full Tal Rasha + Chance + two FCR rings. Rather then Magefist + 2 Nagels.
the Magefist way will increase your killing power and mana regen and give you more MF whereas the other way will give you more stat/res from the rings (which I wanted).

Also, Levi is fine on a merc, they like damage reduction a lot.

 

[arBitur]

Re: Comment on my Meteorb sorc.

firstly...you shouldn't advertise other websites here...
secondly...LOL you can't switch weapons loool. I know and it's rather annoying, don't laugh! the computer even restarts for no reason sometimes which makes me REALLY mad

ok. I would recommend not going for Ice Bolt - simply because its a disgrace to call itself a synergy (2% each point? 12% total damage to your FO?). Don't do it. OK, well can someone give me a skill set-up telling me precisely how i should spend the points??

I would drop the Waterwalks and go for War Travellers - for the MF and the 10 str... I WON'T buy WT's cause they will mess up my wallet, maybe when i get my old Necro stuff sold..
which will mean you can probably get away with less base str as you will get an anni which will add at least 10 str (156 needed, -10, -10 =136str, - your torch 16 = 120 str!) you can then plunge some of those points into vit. Btw, don't put any points in Energy - use them in vitality. You need lotsa HP to survive those dolls at Meph. Yes, i might get an anni if someone sells me one and i can't find a seller atm . i know pumping VIT is important but around 30-40 points really won't a big difference, i got some small/grand charms with +mana and +life atm but nothing super good.

FCR - with your set up you've got only 90. You should switch your frostburns to Magefists to get 110 which is enough for the 105 FCR BP and you can telefaster with this. Okay, magefists it is! =D

Your other ring could be another Nagels if you want more MF. I don't think you need CBF from ravens because being chilled doesn't affect your casting rate. I only got a Nagelring22 and a Nagel16, i might have a couple of ravens somewhere.

You could switch to chance guards and use two FCR rings but you will lose more MF this way (unless you have absolutely crap Nagels and a high chance guards). I've gone for Full Tal Rasha + Chance + two FCR rings. Rather then Magefist + 2 Nagels. My damage will go down by thousands if i switch to Tal =/
the Magefist way will increase your killing power and mana regen and give you more MF whereas the other way will give you more stat/res from the rings (which I wanted).

Also, Levi is fine on a merc, they like damage reduction a lot. The Levi are from my Barb but ive quitted it as it started dying alot in dia runs

*Guface said:*

Merc armor - if a def merc, use ebugged runeword armor. Smoke, lionheart and fortitude if you can afford. - whats a "ebugged runeword armor" and btw i think spending THAT much money on runewords for a merc sounds a bit stupid as they will die at the boss fast (except countess), i won't afford those runewords atm as all i got is mal+pul which will go to a fire RBF as said and a low anni if someone will even sell to me.

Spirit shield - you'll have to get some fire resists like small charms. Also consider something else for a 75% block sorc which i prefer for mf teleporting. Upped viscer and stormshield are better imo. The debate rages though. - Seriously, if i take of my spirit i will lose a fatal amount of damage which i really don't want to.

13 Fire mastery - I'd max firebaal and meteor first and find which skill you like more. If you like FB more - max firebolt. If you like meteor more and are gonna use it a lot more, max firemastery. - actually the first character i made this ladder were a paladin that reached lvl 17 AND a lvl 60 fire sorc, imo i think i will use meteor just a little bit more than fireball as Frozen orb and Meteor will be my main killers, i will pretty much use Meteor at bosses and use a fireball between each Meteor as it cools down, Frozen orb will pretty much fix all monsters that will annoy me.

U also said something about not having insight in a eth cv? well its 2 late, already made it xD

Well all i need now are a solid set up for my skills and attributes as u know what gear im using(any ideas people?), thanks for the comments btw. :coffee:

 

[Arek]

Re: Comment on my Meteorb sorc.

get full tals, magefists and 35 spirit. max frozenorb, rest to firebolt and youre set

 

[guface]

Re: Comment on my Meteorb sorc.

ebuggin is when you socket an ethereal armor with the horadric cube recipe. For armors, this is perf diamond, eth item, shael and amn (or one of the other minor runes) transmuted in the cube. When this sockets the item, there is a bug in the forumla which doubles the ethereal base defense bonus. Normally ethereal elite armors range around the 600-700 defense area. With ebugging, this goes to around 1000-1200 defense. And all this defense is BASE defense therefore any % addition in the form of runewords gives full bonus. With something like smoke (nef lum - cheap runes btw dont think this is out of your reach), my last kraken shell got around 2k defense. Fortitude is just immense though, if you can afford it....

 

[arBitur]

Re: Comment on my Meteorb sorc.

get full tals, magefists and 35 spirit. max frozenorb, rest to firebolt and youre set

Ummmm, i thought i said if i get full tals my damage would go down by thousands and can you be a bit more specific about skill placement??

 

[arBitur]

Re: Comment on my Meteorb sorc.

ebuggin is when you socket an ethereal armor with the horadric cube recipe. For armors, this is perf diamond, eth item, shael and amn (or one of the other minor runes) transmuted in the cube. When this sockets the item, there is a bug in the forumla which doubles the ethereal base defense bonus. Normally ethereal elite armors range around the 600-700 defense area. With ebugging, this goes to around 1000-1200 defense. And all this defense is BASE defense therefore any % addition in the form of runewords gives full bonus. With something like smoke (nef lum - cheap runes btw dont think this is out of your reach), my last kraken shell got around 2k defense. Fortitude is just immense though, if you can afford it....

k, so should i use Levi or try to get a Eth socketed Kraken shell with 2 sockets for my merc and fix a Lum as a Nef rune are easy?(would take forever..) tyvm for explaining btw =D

btw can someone tell me exactly how to spend my points and im all set(i think..) :jig:

 

[Arek]

Re: Comment on my Meteorb sorc.

Ummmm, i thought i said if i get full tals my damage would go down by thousands

in fact the opposite is right http://forum.diii.net/showthread.php?t=151250

can you be a bit more specific about skill placement??

max frozen orb - if you want it stronger. i would do that first.
rest in firebolt - synergy to meteor and fireball. you wont have many points left. again, i would dump all of them here.
1pt static, teleport, warmth - i think you already have that.

 

[arBitur]

Re: Comment on my Meteorb sorc.

in fact the opposite is right http://forum.diii.net/showthread.php?t=151250



max frozen orb - if you want it stronger. i would do that first.
rest in firebolt - synergy to meteor and fireball. you wont have many points left. again, i would dump all of them here.
1pt static, teleport, warmth - i think you already have that.

Congratulations, u managed to change my mind about not using tal set but yet theirs another setback: the guide mentioned i would need 2 sojs and a 3 Um'd headhunter's glory shield which i would have a hard time affording and finding..

If theirs a way to use the guide but using a Ravenfrost, Nagel, Waterwalks, Magefist and a Headhunters glory shield with 3 perfect diamonds im pretty much satisfied but finding that shield will be hard as i haven't seen it on LoD ladder but readed about it on Mount Arreat. (if someone got a headhunters glory id buy it :O)

 

[DH Amazon]

Re: Comment on my Meteorb sorc.

Congratulations, u managed to change my mind about not using tal set but yet theirs another setback: the guide mentioned i would need 2 sojs and a 3 Um'd headhunter's glory shield which i would have a hard time affording and finding..

If theirs a way to use the guide but using a Ravenfrost, Nagel, Waterwalks, Magefist and a Headhunters glory shield with 3 perfect diamonds im pretty much satisfied but finding that shield will be hard as i haven't seen it on LoD ladder but readed about it on Mount Arreat. (if someone got a headhunters glory id buy it :O)

Don't use Headhunters shield, start of guide (is from year 2004) is before spirit shields, so use spirit shield. If not 35fcr one, then add one 10fcr ring to get over 105fcr.

You can use nagel as another ring. Just use magefist and 10fcr ring if not perfect (35) spirit.

I have 3 socket headhunters, but I don't sell it as its useless.

 

[arBitur]

Re: Comment on my Meteorb sorc.

Don't use Headhunters shield, start of guide (is from year 2004) is before spirit shields, so use spirit shield. If not 35fcr one, then add one 10fcr ring to get over 105fcr.

You can use nagel as another ring. Just use magefist and 10fcr ring if not perfect (35) spirit.

I have 3 socket headhunters, but I don't sell it as its useless.

Haha, i just bought a Headhunter but it were worth it as the res were totally awesome on it, well ive got a 10 fcr ring, magefists and a spirit shield30 so i guess i'll start making my Meteorber, a final question: how many pts into Cold Mastery if i use full Tal?