Cheap Uber Killer 1pt SmitePally/Ribcrackerdruid?

[williamchan]

Re: Cheap Uber Killer 1pt SmitePally/Ribcrackerdruid?

The druid's set up isn't even close to a pally's. No offense but it takes some skill to get through uber trist with a druid unlike the paladin. Both chars can be made cheap or expensive and make it hard or easy depending on how you want it to be. Take out mephi first btw. Choman, I also suggested wizzy to him in his other thread in the druid forum, most people don't look twice at it for any character, but it works really well for a smiter or a caster.

Yea he sure did :thumbup:. I posted this on the druid forums too, to get some feedback on the druid community but up till now only Bam is the one helping out, which I thank him, since I am a superpoornoob I think I'll end up going for a paly. Though I am very, VERY tempted to go for the ribcracker option.

Btw, what were the stacked resists on your friends druid? The guide stated that in order to be ok for mephisto, you had to have close to max resists AFTER mephistos aura.:nod:

 

[BAMFSpecialOps]

Re: Cheap Uber Killer 1pt SmitePally/Ribcrackerdruid?

325 would be plenty of res, -100 for hell mode, -150 for convic*dont remember the aura level of mephi's so this could be lower*, then another 75 to top it off.

 

[Bjam]

Re: Cheap Uber Killer 1pt SmitePally/Ribcrackerdruid?

The number to shoot for is 300 (Meph's aura is -125%). Remember that Conviction doesn't affect Poison, so no need to boost it beyond 175. You can get by with less than 300 resists on the other three, especially if you have absorb for a specific element.

 

[williamchan]

Re: Cheap Uber Killer 1pt SmitePally/Ribcrackerdruid?

Nice to point out the poison issue, hehe extra spaces for more resists charms of other type. And good to point out its 125% too I don't know why I've always thought of 150%....

 

[BAMFSpecialOps]

Re: Cheap Uber Killer 1pt SmitePally/Ribcrackerdruid?

Convic maxes out at -150 res, so when you make a pally that use's convic you make sure not to go over level 25 with +skill gear. Thanks for the catch Bjam.

 

[williamchan]

Re: Cheap Uber Killer 1pt SmitePally/Ribcrackerdruid?

Isn't a kicksin almost the same like a smiter vs ubers, as in cheap, though I think the pally beats every class in untwinkage. Fade kinda like conviction, fanatism kinda like burst of speed. I think kick is way better to apply CTC spells like draculs' life tap too =).

 

[BAMFSpecialOps]

Re: Cheap Uber Killer 1pt SmitePally/Ribcrackerdruid?

But there is no holyshield for easier max block, pally has higher def, smite is auto hit where kicks you need to focus on AR. Not to mention if you get a grief the dmg adds to smite where it doesn't to kicks. Fade would be like salvation*or the res aura* not conviction. If you land all of your kicks then they can be better to apply CTC spells, but if you miss or your target dies on say the first kick your left kicking air for the rest of the kicks and unable to do anything except get hit.

 

[Painman]

Re: Cheap Uber Killer 1pt SmitePally/Ribcrackerdruid?

Familiarity with a class goes a long way. You know Druids very well, although the problem with a Ribcracker (as already pointed out) is automatic lack of a shield to provide you with any type of support mods.

It's close to the same story with any class that attempts Ubers - it comes down to resists, Crushing Blow, Life Tap, and also for most, a very high Attack Rating (not an issue for the Paladin).

I have only ever run the Ubers with Barbarians - been playing them forever, so it was a natural choice. I've done it on the cheap (dual Bul Kathos set Colossus Blades) and the not so cheap (Beast, Death, Chains, etc).

I've run mini-Ubers with a Fishy Necro - his tactics differ somewhat. He incapacitates bosses with a combination of slow, cold and Decrepify, then employs minions to deliver Crushing Blows. It works better than you might imagine.

This season, though, it's going to be a Pally I haven't given this character class the respect it deserves. Plus, they tackle the problem really well.

This is not to say you shouldn't still try the Druid if you have your heart set on that goal, but the problem with Ribcracker is how it leaves you defenseless on the Resists front... you have GOT to stack resists vs. Meph, or you are going to die. You need a shield, or weapons that provide resists (those dual BK Colossus Blades were viable due to them having @res as well as %CB).

How about, instead of cracking ribs, ripping flesh instead (Fleshripper)? I don't know Druids well, but that seems like it might be a pretty effective Fury weapon for this challenge.

 

[williamchan]

Re: Cheap Uber Killer 1pt SmitePally/Ribcrackerdruid?

Familiarity with a class goes a long way. You know Druids very well, although the problem with a Ribcracker (as already pointed out) is automatic lack of a shield to provide you with any type of support mods.

It's close to the same story with any class that attempts Ubers - it comes down to resists, Crushing Blow, Life Tap, and also for most, a very high Attack Rating (not an issue for the Paladin).

I have only ever run the Ubers with Barbarians - been playing them forever, so it was a natural choice. I've done it on the cheap (dual Bul Kathos set Colossus Blades) and the not so cheap (Beast, Death, Chains, etc).

I've run mini-Ubers with a Fishy Necro - his tactics differ somewhat. He incapacitates bosses with a combination of slow, cold and Decrepify, then employs minions to deliver Crushing Blows. It works better than you might imagine.

This season, though, it's going to be a Pally I haven't given this character class the respect it deserves. Plus, they tackle the problem really well.

This is not to say you shouldn't still try the Druid if you have your heart set on that goal, but the problem with Ribcracker is how it leaves you defenseless on the Resists front... you have GOT to stack resists vs. Meph, or you are going to die. You need a shield, or weapons that provide resists (those dual BK Colossus Blades were viable due to them having @res as well as %CB).

How about, instead of cracking ribs, ripping flesh instead (Fleshripper)? I don't know Druids well, but that seems like it might be a pretty effective Fury weapon for this challenge.

No clue if Fleshripper would be effective, the question just came into my head when I read both of the guides, although being more interested in the druid part, the cheap influenced me to think about a paly, though I cant play one since I dont like them much.