Cheap Uber Killer 1pt SmitePally/Ribcrackerdruid?

[williamchan]

Cheap Uber Killer 1pt SmitePally/Ribcrackerdruid?

Ribcracker Fury Druid - Uber Killer Guide
http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=517606

The 1pt smiter guide to Uber Tristram v 1.0.
http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=425449

Ok first of all I am a noob, since I quit D2 for like 3+years to play WOW, but just couldn't take the addiction more, so I came back to D2.

So I have very detailedly read these 2 guides and got excited in this whole Uber killing deal, mainly for fun since I was aiming for PVM mostly on this game, I have never made a paly but I have several druids before I quitted and now, so I am a bit more familiar with druid gameplay than paly.

Also, I am posting this thread in the paladins and the druids forums, since I figure lots of people are just probably posting in one forum and I wanted to know which of these 2 builds is cheaper/more effective in killing Ubers since it looks like fun.

If anyone has tried to make these 2 builds it would be awesome if I could have some feedback regarding my doubt.

So far from what I have played I have a Ribcracker, Jalal's, and a Lightsabre, in regarding the equipment needed in those guides.

So there's my question guys, any ideas on which of these 2 builds is better and cheaper for Uber killing?

Thanks in advance.:thumbup:

 

[ThomasJohnsen]

Re: Cheap Uber Killer 1pt SmitePally/Ribcrackerdruid?

My friend tried the ribcracker druid with the ubers, and it went' fairly well. Resists will be a heavy issue though - with a 2-handed weapon you will be using alot of inventory space on resists charms. The minions alone will deal alot of elemental damage.
The paladin is somewhat easier IMO (I have tried it myself several times), due to the fact, that he has easy max block, high defense and built in heavy resists in the shield. A decent Sanctuary in a Sacred Targe will net you 100+ resists or a HoZ with a Diamond/Um is ~ 70. This will help you immensely against Mephisto's conviction aura - heck you can even get your own conviction to override his. It is no coincidence, that the vast majority of the uber-runners are paladins. And I haven't even mentioned the great skill Smite, that hits every time - no need to worry about attack rating or tapping back life lost quickly enough.

The druid is a bit more uncommon though - and thus the equipment will be slightly (alot!) cheaper. An upgraded ribcracker with a decent ed will cost you a ~Lem, whereas a Grief + HoZ/Sanctuary ST will cost you a fortune.

As you might have gathered, I favor the paladin :loving:.

 

[williamchan]

Re: Cheap Uber Killer 1pt SmitePally/Ribcrackerdruid?

Thanks for the reply, well the 1 pt smiter guide, specified 3 levels of gear that was effective on Uber killing, I was maybe thinking about a poormans/medium type of gear. Though I do think that the safe way to go is using a paly since from what I understood there's a lot of health fluctuation cause of the massive leeching that a WW druid depends on for survival.

 

[BAMFSpecialOps]

Re: Cheap Uber Killer 1pt SmitePally/Ribcrackerdruid?

They both use lifetap to survive, dracs/exile/marrows/wand/lastwish, all have the ctc lifetap which if your melee makes you invincible until the curse wears off but with the fast attack of both characters it hardly does.

 

[williamchan]

Re: Cheap Uber Killer 1pt SmitePally/Ribcrackerdruid?

They both use lifetap to survive, dracs/exile/marrows/wand/lastwish, all have the ctc lifetap which if your melee makes you invincible until the curse wears off but with the fast attack of both characters it hardly does.

Yup I understand that, but the paladin will take less damage because of the superior defense and easier atained resists, so less crazy HP moving like the wolf I am guessing, at least from all the fury threads I have read, people stating that.

So far, paladin is easier but more expensive is what I am understanding?

 

[ThomasJohnsen]

Re: Cheap Uber Killer 1pt SmitePally/Ribcrackerdruid?

So far, paladin is easier but more expensive is what I am understanding?

Right! If this is your first try, and you have noone to help you or BO you, I think the paladin is the best way to go. Then build a druid and try it again.

 

[BAMFSpecialOps]

Re: Cheap Uber Killer 1pt SmitePally/Ribcrackerdruid?

Might want to see if you can get a necro and a barb to help you with your first time through uber trist also, barb for the BO and necro for minions/instant life tap.

 

[williamchan]

Re: Cheap Uber Killer 1pt SmitePally/Ribcrackerdruid?

Right! If this is your first try, and you have noone to help you or BO you, I think the paladin is the best way to go. Then build a druid and try it again.

Well yea this IS my first time, then I will probably go with a paladin since I don't have any friends that can help me at the moment, though since I AM starting to build them from scratch maybe I can find some by the time I finish my UBER char acter.

 

[williamchan]

Re: Cheap Uber Killer 1pt SmitePally/Ribcrackerdruid?

Might want to see if you can get a necro and a barb to help you with your first time through uber trist also, barb for the BO and necro for minions/instant life tap.

If I get their help isn't it going to make the game a lot tougher than just fighting them by myself? Or team work will always be easier? Also, don't necros suck vs boss fights?, unless pure bonemancer.

BTW I thank yall for the help, keep the posts coming :thumbup:

 

[BAMFSpecialOps]

Re: Cheap Uber Killer 1pt SmitePally/Ribcrackerdruid?

It will give the monsters extra life, but at the same time you get a lot of extra security. The barb doesn't have to stay in the game, he can leave after he BO's you then rejoin if needed. The necro gives crowd control if he is summoner which takes the heat from the minions off your back, the necro can also cast life tap right at the start so you don't have to wait for it to proc from dracs/exile/etc, and because life tap makes you basically invincible its a cake walk from there.

 

[ThomasJohnsen]

Re: Cheap Uber Killer 1pt SmitePally/Ribcrackerdruid?

If I get their help isn't it going to make the game a lot tougher than just fighting them by myself?

No! Even though monsters get tougher with more people in the game, the effect of a well-working team with spells, auras, effects, minions etc. that help one another will make the game significantly easier. A necro for curses/minions, a palain smiter and a barb for BO is a powerfull team.

Also, don't necros suck vs boss fights?, unless pure bonemancer.

A necro fishy can be very powerfull and many has soloed ubers. So that's another no - necros don't suck.

#EDIT: So pwnd it hurts :|

 

[ploves]

Re: Cheap Uber Killer 1pt SmitePally/Ribcrackerdruid?

he means if I'm correct, get the barb into your game then let him bo you and he leaves. His Bo will stay on you until the spell "expires".

 

[BAMFSpecialOps]

Re: Cheap Uber Killer 1pt SmitePally/Ribcrackerdruid?

The barbs BO will have an effect on your char, till either the timer wears off, or you die.

 

[williamchan]

Re: Cheap Uber Killer 1pt SmitePally/Ribcrackerdruid?

No! Even though monsters get tougher with more people in the game, the effect of a well-working team with spells, auras, effects, minions etc. that help one another will make the game significantly easier. A necro for curses/minions, a palain smiter and a barb for BO is a powerfull team.



A necro fishy can be very powerfull and many has soloed ubers. So that's another no - necros don't suck.

#EDIT: So pwnd it hurts :|

Are you joking that necro fishy can solo UBERS? Which ones and what types of builds :crazyeyes: cause I don't believe it hahah, probably cause my summoner/bone necro sucks.

And for the BO part , thats what I thought so too, that the spell stays, but from I understood was to have another character help you out for the Uber killing.

 

[BAMFSpecialOps]

Re: Cheap Uber Killer 1pt SmitePally/Ribcrackerdruid?

Check over to the necro forum for a guide that tells you how to make a fishy to run ubers, basically gear to survive on the necro, the merc has a lot of cb gear and then you revive monsters with cb attacks and telestomp the ubers. The barb can stay in the game to help you kill the ubers, the necro should stay in the game with you anyways so if you do decide to go the party route they will be around.

 

[williamchan]

Re: Cheap Uber Killer 1pt SmitePally/Ribcrackerdruid?

Check over to the necro forum for a guide that tells you how to make a fishy to run ubers, basically gear to survive on the necro, the merc has a lot of cb gear and then you revive monsters with cb attacks and telestomp the ubers. The barb can stay in the game to help you kill the ubers, the necro should stay in the game with you anyways so if you do decide to go the party route they will be around.

Fast necro Uber Tristram run (video)
http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=476867

Here's my setup as per request:

Character: Maleki
Level: 93
Hell resists: Max
Life: 1315 (2192 after BO)
Mana: 741 (984 after BO)
Armor: Dusk Enigma
Helm: PTopaz Shako
Shield: PDiamond Homunculus (lidless on switch)
Weapon: 36% HOTO (6/6/3 crystal CTA on switch)
Ammy: +2 necro/43 mana/13 resist all (rare)
Gloves: Magefist
Boots: +2 SM Marrowwalk
Rings: 2x Soj
Belt: Arachnid Sash
Charms:
7x summon skillers (mostly plain),
40/139 Gheed,
13/20/6 Annihilus
18/19 Torch
4x 7mfsc
3x vsc

Merc: Kasim
Type: Might
Level: 93
Life: 2087 (3819 after BO)
Hell resists: Max
Helm: Guillaume's Face (clean)
Armor: Archon COH
Weapon: Eth Infinity Thresher

Skills (actual skill in parens):

Curses:
1 in each (21)

PnB:
Corpse Explode: 20 (39)

Summon:
Skeleton Mastery: 20 (47)
Raise Skeleton: 20 (45)
Raise Skeletal Mage: 20 (45)
Clay Golem: 1 (26)
Golem Mastery: 1 (26)
Summon Resist: 1 (26)
Revive: 1 (26)

Misc:
Battle orders: 0 (16)
Battle command: 0 (16)
Teleport: 0 (11)

7x skill points unused

Base Energy
Base Dex
Enough Str for Equip
Rest Vita

This guy's gear is freaking insane, I just did the math for the +skillers he has 25 in total if I am not mistaken... he has like top end uber godly retarded gear XD.

 

[BAMFSpecialOps]

Re: Cheap Uber Killer 1pt SmitePally/Ribcrackerdruid?

There have been attempts to run the ubers with every character class. The zon/sorc can even run it, of course its not as easy as a pally, and it takes some specific gear but it can be done. You just have to ask yourself do you want the runs to be cake walks? Do you want there to be a little challenge? Or do you want Uber Trist runs to be Uber hard like blizzard intended? You can make it as hard or as easy as you would want it to be. A pally with uber gear takes a few mins to run them, lesser gear takes longer. A druid can run them it's a little harder but imo a lot funner.

 

[ThomasJohnsen]

Re: Cheap Uber Killer 1pt SmitePally/Ribcrackerdruid?

The zon/sorc can even run it...

I must admit though, that I was surprised to see a melee sorc tank the ubers alone and slay them pretty quickly. That was more impressive IMO than the summon necro or the Windforce bowa, though they of course were great accomplishments too. I have only tried it the easy way :embarassed:; though with both poor, mediocre and great gear. And without a doubt it was the most fun with the poor gear - I sat at the edge of the chair with my palms sweating, eagerly watching the lifebulb, with my finger ready for fat purples or a change of aura. Later on the exitement fades, and it becomes a routine - same as with the game itself (which is why I now play only hardcore).

 

[Choman]

Re: Cheap Uber Killer 1pt SmitePally/Ribcrackerdruid?

I'd like to share my recent experience with the Uber's.

One of my friends built a pimped out lvl 87 Ribcracker Druid(with torch, annihilus and everything) made specifically to run ubers. When he got there, he took out Baal and Diablo with not too much trouble but then he had to face Meph. I dunno the details of it since I joined the game 2 hours after he created the game but apparently, he couldn't handle the hit to resists in uber trist.

He msged me to join and use my all res aura to help him. Unfortunately, I was in the middle of building my pure zeal/smite pally for ubers so I had to quickly convert my already made hammerdin to help him. With a few minor gear changes I was ready. Here's the gear setup I used (lvl 82 hammerdin/1pt smiter):

Guillame's face
'Sanctuary' Zakarum Shield (98 res)
'Lionheart' Mage Plate (yes, lionheart...it's dirt cheap and awesome!)
Laying of hands
Goblin Toe
Ravenfrost
Dwarf Star
Thundergod's Vigor
Wizard Spike
Rare +2 pally ammy with resists

As you can see, the gear setup is very cheap (minus the mal for sanctuary). Anyways, I step into the game and demolish meph.

My friend pretty much had the ultimate Ribcracker Druid setup and he kept getting Ko'd by meph and his minions. My pally, with the overstacked resists, was able to tank him easily with lifetap.

Now mind you, this was not the ideal zeal/smiter setup but I'm just trying to point out that resists is the key to ubers and pally's pwn resists like no other. Not only is uber trist easy with the pally's resists, defense, and skillset, IT DOES NOT REQUIRE EXPENSIVE GEAR.

My suggestions for cheap uber gear for pally: Goblin Toe, Guillame's face, Life Tap Wand(a must), Lionheart(for a fal and lum, you get a huge stat point boost and 30 res all!), Elite Pally Shield with res and 4 pdiamonds, ravenfrost, laying of hands(drac's if you can afford)

Honestly, crushing blow does all the damage so the weapon slot is really up to you, depending on what you need. I found that around 50% crushing blow or above is more than enough to kill ubers quickly. I might sound crazy for suggesting Wiz spike, but the resists are crazy and they're dirt cheap.

 

[BAMFSpecialOps]

Re: Cheap Uber Killer 1pt SmitePally/Ribcrackerdruid?

The druid's set up isn't even close to a pally's. No offense but it takes some skill to get through uber trist with a druid unlike the paladin. Both chars can be made cheap or expensive and make it hard or easy depending on how you want it to be. Take out mephi first btw. Choman, I also suggested wizzy to him in his other thread in the druid forum, most people don't look twice at it for any character, but it works really well for a smiter or a caster.