Charged Items and Cross-Class Skills Questions

ricrestoni

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Charged Items and Cross-Class Skills Questions

To the bottomless vault of knowledge that is the SPF:

First, suppose I play an Amazon

1- I summon Grizzly Bear and Oak Sage from item charges, then immediately unequip the charged items. Will these summons be still alive?

I build an Iron Golem from Metalgrid charges. Will it survive if I:

2- Immediately switch to everyday use amulet?

3- Immediately switch to everyday use amulet, quit and open a new game with Metalgrid equipped?

4- (same as above, without Metalgrid equipped)

5- Keep Metalgrid equipped, leave game and return with it equipped?

6- (same as above, without Metalgrid equipped)

7- Will the Iron Golem have synergies from an item with, say, Clay Golem charges?

Now instead I am a Necromancer. I have no points in Iron Golem. I cast it from Metalgrid.

8- Will it use the synergies from my Clay Golem spent points?

9- What about Golem Mastery?

Now I play a barb with a +1 Zeal +1 Berserk weapon.

10- Does Zeal gain a level from Guardian Angel (+1 to pally skills)?

11- Does Zeal gain levels from a scepter with +3 to Zeal (paladin only), stupid as it may sound?

12- Does Zeal gain synergy from another item with Sacrifice charges?

Gosh, I thought of many more questions, but just writing down these 12 made me so dizzy that I lost myself completely.:bonk: :bonk:
 

pesot

Diabloii.Net Member
ricrestoni said:
To the bottomless vault of knowledge that is the SPF:

1- I summon Grizzly Bear and Oak Sage from item charges, then immediately unequip the charged items. Will these summons be still alive?

2- Immediately switch to everyday use amulet?

3- Immediately switch to everyday use amulet, quit and open a new game with Metalgrid equipped?

4- (same as above, without Metalgrid equipped)

5- Keep Metalgrid equipped, leave game and return with it equipped?

6- (same as above, without Metalgrid equipped)

7- Will the Iron Golem have synergies from an item with, say, Clay Golem charges?

8- Will it use the synergies from my Clay Golem spent points?

9- What about Golem Mastery?

Now I play a barb with a +1 Zeal +1 Berserk weapon.

10- Does Zeal gain a level from Guardian Angel (+1 to pally skills)?

11- Does Zeal gain levels from a scepter with +3 to Zeal (paladin only), stupid as it may sound?

12- Does Zeal gain synergy from another item with Sacrifice charges?
let me try this, been off for quite a while now :) :

- I don't think summons from charged items will be saved with the game. but i could be wrong.

- Charged items will not receive/give synergies from/to pts in skills. But there are some bugs I've heard of.

- As for 10, no. For 11, If it says +3 to Zeal(pally only), then only a paladin would get it. 12, not really sure.

hope that has helped. i'm a little rusty with this new patch. Just installed it a couple of days ago.
 
ok...

-I believe the summons will stay alive without the item being equipped, since you're using charges. If you were playing a druid with a helm +1 grizzly or whatever, and had no actual points in summon grizzly, then you would have to keep the helm equipped to get your teddy bear.

-Iron golems should stay from game to game. I don't think it will synergize with an item with clay golem charges, but I'm not sure. It should get bonuses from actual points in golem mastery and other golems and such.

-I doubt it, since you're technically a barb using zeal so you don't get bonuses to "paladin skills" or "+1 zeal (paladin only)". You don't get synergies either.
 

nemar

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if I don't make mistake, you use cynergie if you put point. so
8 - yes
9- yes (and I'm not sure about cynergie, it work in 1.09 !
10. no but you're cynergie is working on you're +1 zeal (if effective)
11- yes even you have 0 zeal, now you have 3 , no if it's a 3zeal 10 charges!
12 - no, but not compliqued to verify

13- I don't remember but I read a bug on a specific cynergie that work with items.

for other don't know but not difficult to test
 

ricrestoni

Diabloii.Net Member
nemar said:
if I don't make mistake, you use cynergie if you put point. so
8 - yes
9- yes (and I'm not sure about cynergie, it work in 1.09 !
10. no but you're cynergie is working on you're +1 zeal (if effective)
11- yes even you have 0 zeal, now you have 3 , no if it's a 3zeal 10 charges!
12 - no, but not compliqued to verify

13- I don't remember but I read a bug on a specific cynergie that work with items.

for other don't know but not difficult to test
I am not sure I got it, maybe because English is native to neither of us:xflash:

But I am not sure if 10~12 is what you say to a non-pally.

Et quois? 13? pas 13! (hehe, my old rusty French! Merci beaucoup!)
 

ricrestoni

Diabloii.Net Member
AFAIK:

1- I summon Grizzly Bear and Oak Sage from item charges, then immediately unequip the charged items. Will these summons be still alive?
If those were granted by, say, a +1 OS +1 Grizzly pelt for a druid, the minions would pop out as soon as the pelt was switched, supposing that no points were spent on them. It happens even if you switch it for a +3 OS +3 Grizzly pelt. That much O know from my necro. But charged items is still a mystery to me, and since I don't have them, I cannot test them.

I build an Iron Golem from Metalgrid charges. Will it survive if I:

2- Immediately switch to everyday use amulet?
Now this cannot even be speculated without testing. Only thing to add is, the regular Necro's Iron Golem is saved between games.

3- Immediately switch to everyday use amulet, quit and open a new game with Metalgrid equipped?

4- (same as above, without Metalgrid equipped)

5- Keep Metalgrid equipped, leave game and return with it equipped?

6- (same as above, without Metalgrid equipped)

7- Will the Iron Golem have synergies from an item with, say, Clay Golem charges?
Only testing...

Now instead I am a Necromancer. I have no points in Iron Golem. I cast it from Metalgrid.

8- Will it use the synergies from my Clay Golem spent points?
Only testing again...

9- What about Golem Mastery?
Only testing - quite repetitive, me...

Now I play a barb with a +1 Zeal +1 Berserk weapon.

10- Does Zeal gain a level from Guardian Angel (+1 to pally skills)?
I wish to believe it is a yes, but...

11- Does Zeal gain levels from a scepter with +3 to Zeal (paladin only), stupid as it may sound?
heh, don't think so...

12- Does Zeal gain synergy from another item with Sacrifice charges?
I think it would work, really, but you can expect anything from a bug.
 

Kaysaar

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An Iron Golem summoned using Metalgrid will unsummoned as soon as you remove the ammy. Unfortunately the golems don't carry over from game to game.
 

Crazy Runner Guy

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ricrestoni said:
7- Will the Iron Golem have synergies from an item with, say, Clay Golem charges?
Going off of the data an empirical research from the Marrowalks bug, and its benefits to Bone armor and such, I would expect the IG to gain bonuses from synergies.

crg
 
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