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Charge vs Smite for templar

Discussion in 'Paladin' started by decoy_sJ, Mar 18, 2004.

  1. decoy_sJ

    decoy_sJ IncGamers Member

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    Charge vs Smite for templar

    ok ok sorry for so many questions but i really dun want to remake my templar this time..so..

    after i max FoH, holy shock and conviction, is Smite or Charge a better secondary skill? assuming i have Maxed holy shield as well..

    any help would be greatly appreciated!! :innocent:

    and erm..can give an explanation as well?so i can understand better..thanks guys :lol:
     
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    Pravda IncGamers Member

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    I'd max fana next if I were you. By maxing fana you can, in addition to FoH/conviction, also use charge/fana and smite/fana. Leave charge and smite at base. They will still do decent damage assuming you have enough +skill items and combat charms.
     
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    decoy_sJ IncGamers Member

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    sounds good!erm..mind taking a look at my setup? this is my first time trying out a pally besides a hammerdin and avenger so i dun really know wat to do :innocent:

    my equip:
    HoTo: +3 skills
    HoZ: +2 skills, +2 combat
    Griffon's eye: +1 skills
    Upped Vipermagi: +1 skills
    Seraph's hymn (hoping to get a Mara's for the resists): +2 skills
    Bul kathos and SoJ: +2 skills

    i got i think erm..1 combat charm so thats +1? :innocent:

    that will give me a level 15 smite and charge..would that be good? :scratch:

    thanks for the advice! :buddies:
     
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    muteownz IncGamers Member

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    20 holy shock.
    20 FoH
    15 conviction (asuming u got plus skills cus conviction doesnt do anything after lvl 25)
    20 holy shield
    20 fanta.

    this seems like it would work. my hammerdin has lots and lots of plus skill stuff on and my charge does pretty good damage so does my smite when i switch to a different weapon that my flail. i think my charge is lvl 17 (with one point in it) same with smite. also i think fanta is capped at lvl 25 pvp as well? can someone confirm this?...
     
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    My advice would be to get more combat charms. I don't know if only one will cut it. 10 combats and non-upgraded HoZ would give you a little bit over 2k smite damage assuming that smite is base and fana and HS are maxed. Is this PvP or PvM? If it's PvP, get more damage reduce. Shaft is better than Viper. I don't know about that circlet either. I would probably use shako. Also, make sure you have enough ias to hit 6fps smite, and a high damage weapon to charge with.
     
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    decoy_sJ IncGamers Member

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    i dun really intend for this to be a melee character thats y i used vipermagi and GE instead of Shafts + Gaze for the damage reduction..the combat charms amount is not by choice..its a sad fact that i only have erm..one..hahaha :innocent:

    conviction is capped at 25 and so with the plus skills i am thinking a lvl 15 + 10 conviction will be enuff..

    the damage of charge is dependent on weapon and smite is on the shield issit? correct me if i'm wrong pls..so is it feasible for me to have Hoto and Hoz for the templar side and Frostwind plus SS on the charge/smite side? :scratch:
     
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    Non-melee chars still get hit, don't they?

    I don't know what weapon your hoto is but assuming it's a flail, you would need 35ias from somewhere. If you stick a shael or a ias jewel in that frostwind you can use it for both charge and smite. I'd probably use something else to smite with though...
     
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    decoy_sJ IncGamers Member

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    hmm u got a point there.. :scratch: :scratch:

    well..erm if a frostwind is not good for smite/charge what would be a recommended weapon? azurewrath? or the tenderizer cudgel thingy? any suggestions would be welcome :thumbsup:
     
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    I don't know what you can get hold of, but if I were you I'd try the kingslayer runeword in a berserker axe. I don't think the runes are too hard to get. If you have an old fury zerker lying around it will work alright too. There are tons of other weapons. Just make sure you can hit the 6fps breakpoint.
     
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    Mal Um Gul Fal..i think it might be a feasible option..the Gul might be a problem though..but thanks for all your help Grav! i feel ready now!

    have one on me! :drink: :drink: :drink:
     
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    Erm, am I the only one to think you might have some AR problems w/ base Charge?
     
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    Base with +skills works fine
     
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    Ew.... why would you do range + range skill?

    Strong FOH + weak smite > strong FOH + weak charge

    Reasons:

    -With maxed holy shield your smite damage will already be decent
    -Ranged + close > ranged + ranged
    -No ar issues
    -For FOH you will be using zak shield and it has nice smite dmg
    -no secondary weapon issues and keeps cta option open
    -better
     
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    He's taking the v/t route. Not only charge -_-
     

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