Chaos Runics?

gunske

Diabloii.Net Member
time ago tried c/s ww and it works fine vs baba's only :lol:
and the ww speed is the same, btw set traps random first and get lvl 12+ mb so you no need to give up extra dmg (+skills) for fcr
 

mcm

Banned
Can someone just sell me a damn 3 venom chaos runic please? Bloody hell these are hard to find.
 

Speederländer

Diabloii.Net Member
mcm said:
Can someone just sell me a damn 3 venom chaos runic please? Bloody hell these are hard to find.
I had a pair (as in two claws) of +3 venom +3 MB runics on the ladder. One had blade shield too. But no longer. :cool:
 

gunske

Diabloii.Net Member
Speederländer said:
For the 2 ww sins on bnet who use a shield, sure. But we aren't talking about that.

Further, that wasn't what you said earlier. You said:

Which is wrong.

ofc ofc ofc THEN SHOW ME THE DETAILS !!!


WW HAS ALWAYS THE SAME SPEED ON CLOSED, IF NOT DEFEND YOURSELF !!!
 

Arbedark

Diabloii.Net Member
gunske said:
ofc ofc ofc THEN SHOW ME THE DETAILS !!!


WW HAS ALWAYS THE SAME SPEED ON CLOSED, IF NOT DEFEND YOURSELF !!!
He did. Did you bother to read the entire thread?

This is incorrect. Take the time to research these things. It SEEMS the same since most people use chaos + fury in suwayyahs and hence hit the last breakpoint. If you don't use a fury, for example, as your second claw, you may very well NOT hit the last BP. For example, if you use a jade talon, you need 15 ias in that claw to hit the fastest WW speed.



Arb
 

Arbedark

Diabloii.Net Member
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WhirlWind Frame Breaks


Code:
Frames | Modified WSM*

  12   |   33 and higher
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  10   |   32 to 25
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   8   |   24 to 10
------------------------ 		
   6   |   9 to -12
------------------------ 		
   4   |   -13 and lower

If you bother to acutally check around yourself then you'd have found this table at the top of this forum.


Which as you can see, gives the ww Frame's for assa's.




Arb
 

Speederländer

Diabloii.Net Member
gunske said:
ooh he did ?

give me the site with the official ww speeds then...
You know, I was kind of ignoring your tone and your foolish claims yesterday but now I won't.

If you think the information here is a lie, why are you here? We HAVE the ww speed breaks listed. These breaks and the mechanics of WW, first for barbs and now for assassins, are literally the product of dozens of people carefully examining the MPQs and running tests in the game to check mechanics and results over the course of YEARS. Now, you may be far too lazy to make an effort to RESEARCH ANYTHING before you make claims that we are all wrong, but that isn't our problem is it? Huge amounts of effort and work have gone into the various speed break charts and mechanics breakdowns on this site, many of them done cooperatively with people on other sites (amazon basin, phrozen keep, etc.). What effort have you made to provide constructive commentary and analysis? ZERO. So, how about you run to the barb forum, post your WW delusions there, and see how they react because so far, the response here has been rather lenient IMO.

We have huge amounts of effort and data behind our numbers. Simply spend 30 seconds looking at the IAS stickies above. What do you have? Nothing. So either shut up or provide the results that show all this work and effort is wrong. Give us the links to your findings from your dissection of the MPQs and give us the format and results of your on-line tests. Till then, put a sock in it.
 

Speederländer

Diabloii.Net Member
Arbedark said:
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WhirlWind Frame Breaks


Code:
Frames | Modified WSM*

  12   |   33 and higher
------------------------           	
  10   |   32 to 25
------------------------ 		
   8   |   24 to 10
------------------------ 		
   6   |   9 to -12
------------------------ 		
   4   |   -13 and lower

If you bother to acutally check around yourself then you'd have found this table at the top of this forum.


Which as you can see, gives the ww Frame's for assa's.

Arb
But, gee, it's not "official". Unless that came directly from Blizz management it's all lies! No one out in the world can ever give any ACTUAL game mechanic info! :rolleyes:
 

Zangeif

Diabloii.Net Member
gunske stop littering this site with misinformation. We know what we are talking about, and we obviously know the ww breakpoints since any non noob dibalo player learns these early. Most of us have memorized the assassin base speeds for every claw, fhr table, fcr table, kicking frame table, trap laying table, and all that crap. Stop giving us "advice" like all ww is the same speed, especially when it's wrong.

I find it especially funny that you recommend using Runics in your first post because "they hit faster." Then again you could just be a troll as I have a hard time believing anyone could make such stupid posts.
 
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