Chains of Honor or Enigma?

Talon0835

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Chains of Honor or Enigma?

Would making Chains of Honor be worth it? I have a Superior Wyrmhide with 500+ Defense and a Ber rune and I can get the other runes rather easily. Should I go through with it or go with Enigma? Thanks ahead of time for answers. This is for a Blizz Sorc who’s currently using an upgraded Um’d Skin of the Vipermagi
 

Verocity

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General rule of thumb:

CoH for Sorc.

Enigma for everyone else.

Now some sorc may want Enigma for the Str boost but the main difference between the two is +1 teleport or +65 all resists. I use CoH for my sorc and love it. When I MF I put on a Ptopazed Skulders. Considering the runes involved, unless you're rich, Enigma is not a good thing to invest in on a sorc.
 

Essex99

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Chains of honor is amazing armor for a sorceress.
The 65 resist all frees you from worrying as much about resistances in your other slots. For instance I was able to take a 14 resist all jewel out of my occulus and put in a fire facet for more damage. Same deal with my stormshield where I can remove the um rune and put in another fire facet.

As well, if you really really hate dying you can leave resist gear on and as long as you are wearinga tgods or a wisp projector your safe even from conviction black souls which are in my mind the most deadly monsters in the game.

Ive tried both enigma and coh on my 97 sorc and I would never go back to enigma.
 

Talon0835

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See, the thing is, I want to be able to trade this if I decide to use something else. Is CoH = Enigma in trade value?
 

Sam74

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Talon0835 said:
See, the thing is, I want to be able to trade this if I decide to use something else. Is CoH = Enigma in trade value?

No. Most people would ask you to throw in a SS,High Rune, or 40/15 to trade COH for Enig, Enig is just simply in demand right now. Kinda like Furby a few years back, and look at em now! :)
 
Sam74 said:
No. Most people would ask you to throw in a SS,High Rune, or 40/15 to trade COH for Enig, Enig is just simply in demand right now. Kinda like Furby a few years back, and look at em now! :)
on a side note, he's referring to non-ladder prices.
 

Choogy

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I hate how everyone is using enigma though...I imagine it as a finely tuned tool, to use on certain characters and everyone and their mother has it on every character...they're making a scalpel into a wood axe....

Ignore hte rant, go COH...sorc doesnt need str or teleport and coh has resists and damage reduce
 

pipermac

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really depends on what you need it for....If you need MF then obvioulsy Enigma.
But if you dont need MF then COH is just simply THE BEST armor in the game hands down. (with 25% mf its not bad either)
+2 Skills= Awsome
65% Resist All = Awsome
Enhanced damage = Amazing if you do Physical Damage

I just traded for an enigma and I dont even have a character to use it right now
my charactors are as follows:

Blizz Sorc for mf'ing - Wears Ptopaz Tals
Poison Necro - Wears 49% Bramble
Tesladin - Wears COH
Light Zon - Wears COH

so looks like I am gonna have to make a new guy to wear the enigma.
 

Xenon[XoA]

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I don't get it, unless your referring to the duped runes on ladder...
Coh for sorcy. I'm still building mine, taking forever and a month to find a Ber though :(
 

Gul'Dan

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btuttle1 said:
If you are going to duel, most leagues have banned Enigma. Just keep that in mind.
I thought most leagues only banned the teleporting part of enigma. Even without teleport enigma still beats CoH in almost all chars.
 

raffster

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Essex99 said:
As well, if you really really hate dying you can leave resist gear on and as long as you are wearinga tgods or a wisp projector your safe even from conviction black souls which are in my mind the most deadly monsters in the game.
Out of topic but I just want to add that if you actually use two high Lightning Absorb Wisps, TGODs, Blackhorn's Face and a Lightsabre, black souls in hell will actually heal you when they blast away. This LA setup also works well against trapasins.
 

Zenkat

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my opinion is CoH for melee, Enigma for Casters other than Sorc

Just a side note on whichever armor you choose to make, I wouldnt use superior armor. Unless its going on someone who is insanely rich in goldfind and doesnt get hit at all. The repair costs of superior items are so ridiculous, even my bowazon has a hard time.... since i was dumb and made a CoH in a superior dusk shroud. Something like 35k per durability repaired.
 

SnakeEye85

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my blizz sorc is using Enigma for the MF, skills but mostly the str bonus so i can wear SS with coldfacet.

i´d love to use the CoH with all that res but enigma suits my build better.
 

Unsane

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Zenkat said:
Just a side note on whichever armor you choose to make, I wouldnt use superior armor. Unless its going on someone who is insanely rich in goldfind and doesnt get hit at all. The repair costs of superior items are so ridiculous, even my bowazon has a hard time.... since i was dumb and made a CoH in a superior dusk shroud. Something like 35k per durability repaired.
I don't get all this complain over pieces of gold. Most armor (especially on a caster) lose durability very slowly.. And if you're going all über with enigma or CoH (I've never even seen a Ber), you might as well get a superior armor (even though it's not the defence you're after). You must be doing something wrong if by the time the armor breaks, you don't have enough money for the repairs.. (or a ral + flawed gem). I don't do pvp much so I dunno about the breaking frequency there..
 

Masticophis

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I use COH on my JavZon. Its awsome for her. The dmg red help alot when she gets hit, although thats rare. She wears 19/14 grifs (clean) highlords ammy, archon coh, 197/8 titans, ss (clean) tgods, ravenfrost, perfect manald, 32% travs, some rare +2 jav gloves... (need to get some better gloves). She is a pure javzon, using lf for main attack, and cs for murdering bosses... she's lvl 83 by the way, and is doing extremely well in hell. All her resistances arent 75, but its close, cept her poison.. i think its like 40+ . Anyways.. got a little off topic.. coh for me.. cept my mf pally.. he uses enigma... lol
 
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