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Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by toader, Apr 2, 2005.

  1. toader

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    Cancer Tips anyone?

    That recent thread from Olie got me thinking about cancer.

    Basically, cancer scares the crap outta me, its so sneaky and subtle. Its scary stuff because we know so little about where it comes from or what starts it, etc. Also, you dont really know you got it until somethings pretty wrong.

    Basically I am starting this thread to see if anyone has heard of anything you can do/take/eat to reduce the risks of cancer. I know we have some medical people around here (necrolestes?), but any advice from anyone that knows would be great.

    This isnt just for me too, I hope if we get some good advice going in this thread that it can help anyone that reads it.
     
  2. Steve_Kow

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    I think it comes down to about 90% early detection--if you catch it soon enough the danger is greatly reduced. That's why I think it's a shame that while women are told about breat self exams, nobody ever tells men and boys about testicular exams. They are equally important. Other than that I suggest getting well acquainted with your own body so you can quickly notice any irregularities, new bumps and whatnot.
     
  3. SassyChickyMomma

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    that is a pretty big list actually. everyday the drs tell you to avoid this & get more of that and then they turn around and say OOPS, nevermind. so i can just say that anything that is generally healthy and has LOTS of antioxidants in it is a good bet. i have heard from countless sources (both magazine and drs and health nuts of my friends...) that BLUEBERRIES are a good food. also, tea! *(especially green tea) coffee does NOT cause cancer but has no real health benefits.
    here is a link to a webpage about foods that are natural cancer prevention and it also has a link to info about early detection and such of cancer and other serious health problems: FatFreeKitchen.com
    i would have just copied and pasted the foods listed but it has that disabled.
    *(copyright yada yada's)* :rolleyes:

    here is another article (sorry if this is a long post, but this is an important topic i just wanted to contribute :D )*
    The following foods have the ability to help stave off cancer and some can even help inhibit cancer cell growth or reduce tumor size.

    Avocados are rich in glutathione, a powerful antioxidant that attacks free radicals in the body by blocking intestinal absorption of certain fats. They also supply even more potassium than bananas and are a strong source of beta-carotene. Scientists also believe that avocados may also be useful in treating viral hepatitis (a cause of liver cancer), as well as other sources of liver damage.

    Broccoli, cabbage, and cauliflower have a chemical component called indole-3-carbinol that can combat breast cancer by converting a cancer-promoting estrogen into a more protective variety. Broccoli, especially sprouts, also have the phytochemical sulforaphane, a product of glucoraphanin - believed to aid in preventing some types of cancer, like colon and rectal cancer. Sulforaphane induces the production of certain enzymes that can deactivate free radicals and carcinogens. The enzymes have been shown to inhibit the growth of tumors in laboratory animals. However, be aware that the Agriculture Department studied 71 types of broccoli plants and found a 30-fold difference in the amounts of glucoraphanin. It appears that the more bitter the broccoli is, the more glucoraphanin it has. Broccoli sprouts have been developed under the trade name BroccoSprouts that have a consistent level of sulforaphane - as much as 20 times higher than the levels found in mature heads of broccoli.

    Carrots contain a lot of beta carotene, which may help reduce a wide range of cancers including lung, mouth, throat, stomach, intestine, bladder, prostate and breast. Some research indicated beta carotene may actually cause cancer, but this has not proven that eating carrots, unless in very large quantities - 2 to 3 kilos a day, can cause cancer. In fact, a substance called falcarinol that is found in carrots has been found to reduce the risk of cancer, according to researchers at Danish Institute of Agricultural Sciences (DIAS). Kirsten Brandt, head of the research department, explained that isolated cancer cells grow more slowly when exposed to falcarinol. This substance is a polyacethylen, however, so it is important not to cook the carrots.

    Chili peppers and jalapenos contain a chemical, capsaicin, which may neutralize certain cancer-causing substances (nitrosamines) and may help prevent cancers such as stomach cancer.

    Cruciferous vegetables - broccoli, cauliflower, kale, Brussels sprouts, and cabbage contain two antioxidants, lutein and zeaxanthin that may help decrease prostate and other cancers.

    Figs
    apparently have a derivative of benzaldehyde. It has been reported that investigators at the Institute of Physical and Chemical Research in Tokyo say benzaldehyde is highly effective at shrinking tumors, though I haven't seen this report. In addition, the U.S. Department of Agriculture says figs, which contain vitamins A and C, and calcium, magnesium and potassium, may curtail appetite and improve weight-loss efforts. Fig juice is also a potent bacteria killer in test-tube studies.


    Flax contains lignans, which may have an antioxidant effect and block or suppress cancerous changes. Flax is also high in omega-3 fatty acids, which are thought to protect against colon cancer and heart disease. See Budwig diet for a specialized diet using flax seed oil and cottage cheese. For studies about flax seed and flax oil, go to our Important News or Archives Page.

    Garlic has immune-enhancing allium compounds (dialyl sultides) that appear to increase the activity of immune cells that fight cancer and indirectly help break down cancer causing substances. These substances also help block carcinogens from entering cells and slow tumor development. Diallyl sulfide, a component of garlic oil, has also been shown to render carcinogens in the liver inactive. Studies have linked garlic — as well as onions, leeks, and chives — to lower risk of stomach and colon cancer. Dr. Lenore Arab, professor of epidemiology and nutrition at the UNC-CH (University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill) schools of public health and medicine and colleagues analyzed a number of studies and reported their findings in the October 2000 issue of the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. According to the report, people who consume raw or cooked garlic regularly face about half the risk of stomach cancer and two-thirds the risk of colorectal cancer as people who eat little or none. Their studies didn't show garlic supplements had the same effect. It is believed garlic may help prevent stomach cancer because it has anti-bacterial effects against a bacterium, Helicobacter pylori, found in the stomach and known to promote cancer there.

    Grapefruits, like oranges and other citrus fruits, contain monoterpenes, believed to help prevent cancer by sweeping carcinogens out of the body. Some studies show that grapefruit may inhibit the proliferation of breast-cancer cells in vitro. They also contains vitamin C, beta-carotene, and folic acid.

    Grapes, red contain bioflavonoids, powerful antioxidants that work as cancer preventives. Grapes are also a rich source of resveratrol, which inhibits the enzymes that can stimulate cancer-cell growth and suppress immune response. They also contain ellagic acid, a compound that blocks enzymes that are necessary for cancer cells - this appears to help slow the growth of tumors.

    Studies show that consumption of green and yellow leafy vegetables has been associated with lower levels of stomach cancer.

    Kale
    has indoles, nitrogen compounds which may help stop the conversion of certain lesions to cancerous cells in estrogen-sensitive tissues. In addition, isothiocyanates, phytochemicals found in kale, are thought to suppress tumor growth and block cancer-causing substances from reaching their targets.

    Licorice root
    has a chemical, glycyrrhizin, that blocks a component of testosterone and therefore may help prevent the growth of prostate cancer. However, excessive amounts can lead to elevated blood pressure.

    Mushrooms
    - There are a number of mushrooms that appear to help the body fight cancer and build the immune system - Shiitake, maitake, reishi, Agaricus blazei Murill, and Coriolus Versicolor. These mushrooms contain polysaccharides, especially Lentinan, powerful compounds that help in building immunity. They are a source of Beta Glucan. They also have a protein called lectin, which attacks cancerous cells and prevents them from multiplying. They also contain Thioproline. These mushrooms can stimulate the production of interferon in the body.

    Extracts from mushrooms have been successfully tested in recent years in Japan as an adjunct to chemotherapy. PSK is made from the Coriolus Versicolor. Maitake mushroom extract is PCM4.

    Nuts contain the antioxidants quercetin and campferol that may suppress the growth of cancers. Brazil nut contains 80 micrograms of selenium, which is important for those with prostate cancer. (Note: Many people are allergic to the proteins in nuts, so if you have any symptoms such as itchy mouth, tight throat, wheezing, etc. after eating nuts, stop. Consider taking a selenium supplement instead or work with someone on how to eliminate this allergy.)

    Oranges and lemons contain Iimonene which stimulates cancer-killing immune cells (lymphocytes, e.g.) that may also break down cancer-causing substances.

    Papayas have vitamin C that works as an antioxidant and may also reduce absorption of cancer-causing nitrosamines from the soil or processed foods. Papaya contains folacin (also known as folic acid), which has been shown to minimize cervical dysplasia and certain cancers.

    Raspberries
    contain many vitamins, minerals, plant compounds and antioxidants known as anthocyanins that may protect against cancer. According to a recent research study reported by Cancer Research 2001;61:6112-6119, rats fed diets of 5% to 10% black raspberries saw the number of esophageal tumors decrease by 43% to 62%. A diet containing 5% black raspberries was more effective than a diet containing 10% black raspberries. Research reported in the journal Nutrition and Cancer in May 2002 shows black raspberries may also thwart colon cancer. Black raspberries are rich in antioxidants, thought to have even more cancer-preventing properties than blueberries and strawberries.

    Red wine, even without alcohol, has polyphenols that may protect against various types of cancer. Polyphenols are potent antioxidants, compounds that help neutralize disease-causing free radicals. Also, researchers at the University of North Carolina's medical school in Chapel Hill found the compound resveratrol, which is found in grape skins. It appears that resveratrol inhibits cell proliferation and can help prevent cancer. However, the findings didn't extend to heavy imbibers, so it should be used in moderation. In addition, alcohol can be toxic to the liver and to the nervous system, and many wines have sulfites, which may be harmful to your health. Note: some research indicates that alcohol is considered a class "A" carcinogen which can actually cause cancer - see http://www.jrussellshealth.com/alccanc.html. You should probably switch to non-alcoholic wines.

    Rosemary may help increase the activity of detoxification enzymes. An extract of rosemary, termed carnosol, has inhibited the development of both breast and skin tumors in animals. We haven't found any studies done on humans. Rosemary can be used as a seasoning. It can also be consumed as a tea: Use 1 tsp. dried leaves per cup of hot water; steep for 15 minutes.

    Seaweed and other sea vegetables contain beta-carotene, protein, vitamin B12, fiber, and chlorophyll, as well as chlorophylones - important fatty acids that may help in the fight against breast cancer. Many sea vegetables also have high concentrations of the minerals potassium, calcium, magnesium, iron, and iodine.

    Soy products like tofu contain several types of phytoestrogens — weak, nonsteroidal estrogens that could help prevent both breast and prostate cancer by blocking and suppressing cancerous changes. There are a number of isoflavones in soy products, but research has shown that genistein is the most potent inhibitor of the growth and spread of cancerous cells. It appears to lower breast-cancer risk by inhibiting the growth of epithelial cells and new blood vessels that tumors require to flourish and is being scrutinized as a potential anti-cancer drug. However, there are some precautions to consider when adding soy to your diet. Eating up to 4 or 5 ounces of tofu or other soy a day is probably ok, but research is being done to see if loading up on soy could cause hormone imbalances that stimulate cancer growth. As a precaution, women who have breast cancer or are at high risk should talk to their doctors before taking pure isoflavone powder and pills, extracted from soy.

    Sweet potatoes contain many anticancer properties, including beta-carotene, which may protect DNA in the cell nucleus from cancer-causing chemicals outside the nuclear membrane.

    Teas: Green Tea and Black tea contain certain antioxidants known as polyphenols (catechins) which appear to prevent cancer cells from dividing. Green tea is best, followed by our more common black tea (herbal teas do not show this benefit). According to a report in the July 2001 issue of the Journal of Cellular Biochemistry, these polyphenols that are abundant in green tea, red wine and olive oil, may protect against various types of cancer. Dry green tea leaves, which are about 40% polyphenols by weight, may also reduce the risk of cancer of the stomach, lung, colon, rectum, liver and pancreas, study findings have suggested.
    Tapioca is derived from the cassava plant. It is one of the many plants that manufactures cyanide by producing a chemical called linamarine which releases hydrogen cyanide when it is broken down by the linamarase enzyme. Spanish researches have been studying the cassava and attempting to clone the genes from the plant which are responsible for producing the hydrogen cyanide and then transfer it to a retrovirus. However, funding for the project has run out. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_317000/317467.stm for more information on this. For a list of other foods that contain B17, go to our laetrile page.

    Tomatoes contain lycopene, an antioxidant that attacks roaming oxygen molecules, known as free radicals, that are suspected of triggering cancer. It appears that the hotter the weather, the more lycopene tomatoes produce. They also have vitamin C, an antioxidant which can prevent cellular damage that leads to cancer. Watermelons, carrots, and red peppers also contain these substances, but in lesser quantities. It is concentrated by cooking tomatoes. Scientists in Israel have shown that lycopene can kill mouth cancer cells. An increased intake of lycopene has already been linked to a reduced risk of breast, prostate, pancreas and colorectal cancer. (Note: Recent studies indicate that for proper absorption, the body also needs some oil along with lycopene.)

    Tumeric (curcuma longa), a member of the ginger family, is believed to have medicinal properties because it inhibits production of the inflammation-related enzyme cyclo-oxygenase 2 (COX-2), levels of which are abnormally high in certain inflammatory diseases and cancers, especially bowel and colon cancer. In fact, a pharmaceutical company Phytopharm in the UK hopes to introduce a natural product, P54, that contains certain volatile oils, which greatly increase the potency of the turmeric spice.

    Turnips
    are said to contain glucose molaes which is a cancer fighting compound. I haven't confirmed this.

    Consumption of fruits and vegetables has been associated with decreased risk of cancers of the colon and rectum.
     
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    Wow, nice list. Thanks :)
     
  5. Beowulf

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    Antioxidents is the most important word to remember. To help try and prevent eat any fruits and veggies that are dark and varied in colors.

    One thing I take every day is grape seed extract and also this
     
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    I just wanted to add that it is very wise to try and do what you can to prevent cancer but it is not fullproof. You could do everything by the book and still end up with cancer. There are a lot of cancers out there that still need a lot of research. They don't even know or understand what causes some of them.

    I think a combination of what Steve_Kow and Sassy said are probably the best bets as far as trying to prevent and fight cancer. Also know that these things change everyday. Doctors learn more and more and hopefully will one day find a 100% cure for such dreaded diseases.

    I wanted to say that my statement about nothing being fullproof wasn't meant to be discouraging. There is always hope. As long as people are researching and learning about it there is hope. Like now, in some countries they are using stem cells to fight some cancers. You never know what they will find out next and it is kind of amazing.

    I know that if I had read something about Lymphoma from the 70s I would have been very discouraged b/c it wasn't very treatable then. Now they consider it one of the easiest cancers to cure.
     
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    A fitting cnn.com article posted today:

    linky

     
  8. Necrolestes

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    Words of wisdom

    That's a great article, Aero. Everyone really has to see their doctor once a year (even if you don't have insurance, there are clinics that will see a person for free) and identify any and all risk factors (e.g. runs in the family, currently a smoker, eats very few if any vegetables and fruits) while keeping in mind that some people are just predisposed to getting cancer in the absence of any identifiable risk factors.

    The general rule is: if something doesn't feel or look right, it isn't right until proven otherwise. Any odd skin patches or lesions: cancer until proven otherwise. Swollen, rock-hard lymph nodes: cancer until proven otherwise. Blood in the stool: cancer until proven otherwise. Never assume that you are overreacting to something strange...you may be saving your own life. Early detection of cancer is the key (stage I lung cancer is very treatable...stage IV lung cancer is incurable).
     
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    I've missed so many oppurtunites for dry wit...I need to catch up


    Here's my cancer tip: Don't get it.








    (and if you think I'm being callous anyone, I've lost family to it)
     
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    yup.

    I just actually went to a seminar about cancer.
    and pretty much, it depends on the person.

    an example:
    2 guys. both smoke 4 packs a day.
    Guy1 gets lung cancer when he is 40, and dies in a few years.
    Guy2 never gets lung cancer, and he is still 70 years old.

    that was the basic example the lecturer gave. SOme people get it, some dont. It really depends on the person because it is a genetic mutation.
    When one of your cells goes crazy, and changes as it is dividing.

    its just that some things promote an earlier risk of cancer (i.e. cigs) and some prevent it, as some articles posted here have suggested.
     
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    My ex gfriends father got cancer in the prostate (sp?) and had to undergo surgery to have it removed. He's fine now but the only reason they where able to cure him was early detection. Basically his wife made him see a doctor every year and that may have saved his life.

    I also think that instead of trying to avoid cancer specifically one should be aware of all aspects of ones health. That means eating diverse, healthy food and exercise on a regular basis. Avoid the thing that are obviosly bad for you like smoking , alcohol, falling off tall buildings etc.

    One other important thing to remember is not to worry too much about it. Enjoy life without being afraid of getting sick. Some people I know worry so much that I sometimes think that they'd be relieved if they actually got sick for real.
     
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    Ladies and gentleman of the Class of '97.

    Wear sunscreen.

    If I could offer you only one tip for the future, sunscreen would be it. The long-term benefits of sunscreen have been proved by scientists, whereas the rest of my advice has no basis more reliable than my own meandering experience. I will dispense this advice now.

    PIE!

    ~SW
     
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    I love that, thanks.
     
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    The tips I could give you for preventing cancer would probably be redundant or too obvious to post, so I'll say what I saw in a documentary some time ago; a way to win over cancer if you get it.

    The kernel of the documentary was that a great exposure to oxygen would weaken (or maybe even kill.. I forgot) the tumor and greatly strengthen your health. It showed multiple people taking hourly long walks daily in the countryside or doing mountian climbing, and even one person going the extreme to camping out in the mountians, living there for a month. All of the people I mentioned above said their health has greatly improved from all that exercise and fresh air, from near deathbed to a reduced tumor. They said they walked, and still walk, every day for about 2 hours, starting from 30 mins, for about 2 to 6 months.

    The second part was about how a significant amount of oxygen can prolong your life, showing seniors in Germany injecting oxygen into their veins every other month, and again, showing great if not significant improvment in health.

    Of course the contents of this single documentary wouldn't show the ultimate cure to cancer, but I thought it would be worth mentioning.
     
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    I like to smoke cigarettes to burn the cancer out of me!
     
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    There are many people in this world who try to live perfect lives in terms of hygiene, exercise, food, no smoking, no drinking, etc.

    and then those same people get a brain tumor

    so to cancer i say bring it on
     
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    It is nigh impossible to avoid carcinogens. After all, as mentioned earlier, sunlight can cause cancer. Well, UV radiation originating from the Sun can cause cancer. I find it best to not worry about it to much.
     
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    Well from my personal experience I think Colon Cancer is caused much of the time by poor eating habits. My dad died from this. He was in moderate shape, didnt smoke, dint drink but ate alot of greasey foods, only person ever to die from Cancer in my family.

    anyway just my theory
     
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    Man, you mean my coffee and cigarette diet isn't on the list? [/stupid sarcastic comment]

    If it wasn't for my wife shoving all that good food down my throat for the past 16 years I am sure the rest of my lifestyle would have me feeding from a tube right now.

    I am a big fan of Garlic. It is a cure ALL!

    R++
     
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    Medical information at your fingertips

    The best site on the web (or at least the most comprehensive) that I've found for cancer information is www.cancer.org
     

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