Can AIDS kill you?

wuffnuff

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Re: Can AIDS kill you?

HIV travels easiest through anal sex and intravenous drug use. Despite what they teach you in health class, there's very little transmitted through vaginal sex (in either direction.)
Yes and that is why the rise of HIV in heterosexuals have been on the rise, they evidently have been performing a lot more anal sex and drug use! Where do you get this crap, the All Informative Guide to Misinformation?

Yes while you are right that the probability to transmit the HIV virus via anal sex may be slightly higher, it is still ridiculously easy to transfer vaginally. Vaginal walls are the same as the penis, mostly covered in membrane as opposed to regular skin. Membrane tears very easy on a microscopic level which is more than enough for the virus to transfer with ease.

Forget health class or where ever you manage to find your information, try speaking to people with HIV, health clinics, sit through seminars or speak to doctors that specialize in HIV. I hope they manage to slap the stupid out of you.



 

Johnny

Banned
Re: Can AIDS kill you?

Assuming the party with AIDS has little wounds in his mouth, since pure saliva can't transfer the virus, only when contaminated with blood.
All it takes is to irritate the gums by doing things like brushing your teeth, using a toothpick/floss or eating something rough like hard bread or carrots etc.



 

Tanooki

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Re: Can AIDS kill you?

Yes and that is why the rise of HIV in heterosexuals have been on the rise, they evidently have been performing a lot more anal sex and drug use! Where do you get this crap, the All Informative Guide to Misinformation?

Yes while you are right that the probability to transmit the HIV virus via anal sex may be slightly higher, it is still ridiculously easy to transfer vaginally. Vaginal walls are the same as the penis, mostly covered in membrane as opposed to regular skin. Membrane tears very easy on a microscopic level which is more than enough for the virus to transfer with ease.

Forget health class or where ever you manage to find your information, try speaking to people with HIV, health clinics, sit through seminars or speak to doctors that specialize in HIV. I hope they manage to slap the stupid out of you.
Let me get this straight.... although gays are about 10% of the population, in 2005 they made 2/3rd of the new cases of AIDS... yet the phrase you used was "slightly higher"? Give me a break.

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/PDF/At-A-Glance.pdf

(edit)
I linked to my stats, now you link to yours.



 

AeroJonesy

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Re: Can AIDS kill you?

Even with those stats, the probability could only be "slightly higher" as wuffnuff said. It would just require that *** men have more sexual contact with others than heterosexual men do.

I have no idea if that's actually true or not, I'm just saying that the statement and the statistics can be reconciled.
 

Tanooki

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Re: Can AIDS kill you?

Well, considering the average gays man will have 1,100 sexual partners, I suppose that's possible. But that's over his whole life, we're talking a single year.

You know what disgusts me? That many gays men consider AIDS a badge of honor. (Btw, I'm never going to use the word "gee aye why" because it looks retarded bleeped out. From now on, I'm going to say "gays", even when it looks stupid.)
 

Johnny

Banned
Re: Can AIDS kill you?

Well, considering the average gays man will have 1,100 sexual partners, I suppose that's possible. But that's over his whole life, we're talking a single year.

You know what disgusts me? That many gays men consider AIDS a badge of honor.
You are completely bat **** crazy.



 

AeroJonesy

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Re: Can AIDS kill you?

You know what disgusts me? That many gays men consider AIDS a badge of honor.
Huh? I have never seen this nor heard of this. Unless you mean they are proud like women with breast cancer are proud or men with prostate cancer are proud. And that's proud as in "I'm not going to let this (potentially) fatal illness get me down," but that's pride in oneself, not pride in having any disease.



 

robzombiesslave

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Re: Can AIDS kill you?

The arguement that AIDS doesnt actually kill you is silly imo. If some crazy guy injects you with poison and the poison kills you. You're saying that it wasnt the crazy guy who killed you, it was the poison? Yeah when it comes down to it the poison is really what caused you to die. But you woulda never been poisoned if that crazy guy didnt inject the poison into your system. You might be right out of technicality. But when it comes down to it. AIDS was the true cause of your death.
 

Tanooki

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Re: Can AIDS kill you?

How absolutely retarded of me. You're right. If you've never heard of it, I'm sure it doesn't exist.

(Hint, try Google - "bug chaser", "bug catcher", or "bug giver".)
 

Johnny

Banned
Re: Can AIDS kill you?

"Bug chasing" and "gift giving" is a fantasy explored online. Only in theory. Just like yiff fantasies. In reality the issue of bug chassers and gift givers are about as large of an issue as fearing straight people due to cannibalism.

Meanwhile after further reading about a "russian roulette" game. If they manage to find 9 clean guys then why not just kick out the one diseased guy and the remaining can have some healthy fun instead.
 

wuffnuff

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Re: Can AIDS kill you?

Let me get this straight.... although gays are about 10% of the population, in 2005 they made 2/3rd of the new cases of AIDS... yet the phrase you used was "slightly higher"? Give me a break.

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/PDF/At-A-Glance.pdf

(edit)
I linked to my stats, now you link to yours.

Did you bother to read the rest of the site? Yes the highest infection is with males, particularly *** males. However, we aren't arguing that *** men have higher statistics, we are talking about your idiotic statement that very little transmission is done vaginally. To follow up that statement, from the same site:


"Can I get HIV from vaginal sex*?

Yes, it is possible for either partner to become infected with HIV through vaginal sex* (intercourse). In fact, it is the most common way the virus is transmitted in much of the world. HIV can be found in the blood, semen (cum), pre-seminal fluid (pre-cum) or vaginal fluid of a person infected with the virus."

source: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/qa/qa21.htm

Note the bolded text. Most common, now does that really sound like vaginal sex is low risk?

Honestly, I don't really care how you respond to that, I do care though that someone might read your statement and think it is true, have unprotected sex and continue spreading this disease.

As for your generalization that gays consider HIV a badge of honor, WTF? Really, WTF? While yes there are some insane people out there, crass generalization that any group as a whole, *** or straight, would consider contracting a disease with a high death mortality an honor is ignorant.

No ignorant would imply lack of knowledge. In this case I would say you are willfully stupid. I think you actively have to work to be that much of a dumbass.



 

Johnny

Banned
Re: Can AIDS kill you?

Sorry. We had to take Tanooki out back and pop a cap in his *** but mayby Vespar can take his place so the "debate" can continue.
 

WildBerry

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Re: Can AIDS kill you?

Don't worry, AIDS is just a myth.
I was wondering what kind of nutcase would seriously claim that. Then I hit the main.htm, and lo and behold...

Sorry to disturb the peace of mind of those who stumbled on this Peace and Love.ca front page, expecting some hippy content, and discovered the 9/11 and AIDS deceptions. By exposing the official propaganda, we hope to slow down the fascist tanks creeping all over the world, in real and virtual terms, that have already invaded two countries since September 11 2001.
Figures.

It makes it all the lovelier that the webmaster of these pages is called Xena.



 

IceWarrior

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Re: Can AIDS kill you?

aids affects you immune system, and so you are more likely to die of something like pnumonia or another illness that can be easily contracted with a damaged immune system, although aids can dircetly kill u but only in a few cases.

passing aid is passed in bodily fluid, one theory is that you could pass aids on via siliva, however your siliva is much more diluted than other bodily fluids and so you would need 2 intake alot of siliva to do this.

in *** sex it is common to cause a cut to the anus of one man, and when the other cums then semen can get into the blood streme, and thus easily pass aids on. it is difficult to get a cut from vaginal sex but it is still easily transferred even if no cut is available, the disease only has to get inside you. so no not just *** men get aids, every1 can through intercourse.

ice
 

Johnny

Banned
Re: Can AIDS kill you?

one theory is that you could pass aids on via siliva, however your siliva is much more diluted than other bodily fluids and so you would need 2 intake alot of siliva to do this.
Eh no. The hiv virus cannot live through the saliva creation process but it can get into the saliva after it reaches the mouth.



 

raishi

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Re: Can AIDS kill you?

actually aids inflicts a sub-lethal effect on the body...and if you never get another virus then it won't kill you...
 
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